# Lord of Beasts overwrites Empowered

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [March 20, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541 "2017-03-20T18:47:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author: ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/1 "2017-03-20T18:47:36Z")

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Not sure if this is a known issue, my admittedly superficial search did not come up with results, so…

**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened?**  
I expected _Empowered_ Beasts to start with full mana, instead if Forest Guardian is placed after an _Empowered_ beast, its _Lord of Beasts_ trait overwrites the _Empowered_ trait of the beast.  
**What are the steps to make it happen again?**  
Simply use an _Empowered_ beast like Spirit Fox and place it infront of a fully traited Forest Guardian. In the pre-battle trait resolve sequence Spirit Fox will first get _Empowered_ with full mana and then get ‘drained’ half of its mana by the _Lord of the Beasts_ trait.  
**Do you have any screenshots or video you want to share with us so we can see the problem? Attach them to your post!**  
No, not needed though this is easily 100% reproducable.

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### Author: ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/2 "2017-03-20T19:13:00Z")

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This is known for a while, and seems to be intended. To bypass the problem rearrange your troops. If your LoB traits procs before Empowered trait, then empowered will fill your troop completely.

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### Author: ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/3 "2017-03-20T19:21:39Z")

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I am aware of that “bypass” that’s why i emphasized the order of troops in my report. It hardly seems intended for one of your (positive)traits to kill off another, but if it is i’d really like to refund my Forest Guardian(don’t even want the stones back, just want to deactivate the LoB trait), cause this trait is effectively making the troop significantly worse for my purposes…

Anyways thanks for letting me know @DonBoba .

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### Author: ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/4 "2017-03-20T19:30:21Z")

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The scripting language processes threads parrarily without an easy intra process communication method, so we’re stuck with timing issues.

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### Author: ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/5 "2017-03-20T19:44:40Z")

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If there really is no workaround for that issue(like LoB simply not affecting certain troops if traited) then i’d still really like to untrait my Forest Guardian’s LoB.  
Like i said, i don’t even care about the stones though losing those does kinda suck, i just want to be able to deactivate that trait.

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### Author: ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/6 "2017-03-20T19:55:47Z")

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I suppose you could mail support and ask them for a refund. Though I’m not sure they have a tool to remove traits from cards.

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### Author: ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/7 "2017-03-21T12:09:44Z")

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i think its simply a design flaw  
but i dont like to think of it as intended.

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### Author: ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lord-of-beasts-overwrites-empowered/21541/8 "2017-03-21T12:56:23Z")

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> [@UKresistance](#):
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> The scripting language processes threads parrarily without an easy intra process communication method, so we’re stuck with timing issues.

It doesn’t need an intra process communication method. When writing back any one of the two mana values it just needs to keep an already assigned higher one around.
