# Looking for advice for a middle of the road guild **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [April 18, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/looking-for-advice-for-a-middle-of-the-road-guild/22792 "2017-04-18T23:25:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 17
**Author:** ![Neves1277](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neves1277/32/14957_2.png) [@Neves1277](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neves1277)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/looking-for-advice-for-a-middle-of-the-road-guild/22792/17 "2017-04-19T00:55:40Z")
We had this one thread not too long ago that had a lot of feedback about what goes on in active middle to high level guilds that I think could be worth a peek to see how people in general think and feel. > [@Guilds ranked 20 to 50 lose players to the top 10](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guilds-ranked-20-to-50-lose-players-to-the-top-10/22153): > > My guild started gaining momentum after the chat was added in December to PS4. Our group went from casual to more competitive. We even started upping our requirements and wanted better players. Before we knew it two months later we were 21st and my players started getting the top 100 more often. I’d kick a few for better players but in a few weeks they just quit anyways for a even better guild, it’s hard to be casual and competitive all in the same guild. I could quit too and join any top ten bu… --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/looking-for-advice-for-a-middle-of-the-road-guild/22792)._