# Limited time offer to remove Weapon upgrades **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [November 14, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211 "2023-11-14T17:12:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![redmist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redmist/32/59905_2.png) [@redmist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/redmist)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/1 "2023-11-14T17:12:50Z")
Remember [this](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/naughty-nice-troop-balance/67801/) (bandit refund), approaching Xmas 2020? Just like when we were permitted to remove the ‘Stealthy’ trait from the ‘Bandit’ troop for a short time, please now allow us to downgrade one (or more?) weapons in the same way. I have ‘Essence of Evil’ firmly in mind whilst I make this suggestion, but other weapons with ‘Hexed’ or even other suffixes may appeal to others. Suffixes would only be removed in sequence, starting with the highest. Polite notice to commenters: Please, no ‘What about kingdom power’ remarks, as this applied equally during the Bandit refund. ---
**Author:** ![Anam\_Cara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/anam_cara/32/103620_2.png) [@Anam\_Cara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Anam_Cara)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/2 "2023-11-14T17:23:51Z")
+1 I second this idea! 😍 Thank you @redmist for suggesting it. It would be a lovely winter holiday present for everyone to be able to do this and also offer the ‘remove stealthy’ trait from the Bandit as well again. There are a lot of players who didn’t know about this back then and could benefit from this now. **❤ Anam Cara** **❤** ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/3 "2023-11-14T17:47:48Z")
You’ll note that the ability to revert upgrades on the Bandit happened at a time when the troop received a significant change. If that’s the precedent you wish to utilize in your argument, it’s reasonable to ask what “nerf” you believe that Essence of Evil should receive to open up a window for reversion. ---
**Author:** ![redmist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redmist/32/59905_2.png) [@redmist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/redmist)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/4 "2023-11-14T17:56:57Z")
Balancing the game is not in my remit, but should the devs wish to take the opportunity to do so then we can be sure that they will only have the best interests of the game at heart! An alternative ‘cost’ could be… oodles of Treasure Maps, or some other currency/ies, if there is a feeling that this option to nerf your future kingdom progression should incur an additional penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/5 "2023-11-14T21:17:20Z")
> [@Kezef](#): > > If that’s the precedent you wish to utilize in your argument, it’s reasonable to ask what “nerf” you believe that Essence of Evil should receive to open up a window for reversion. That’s an easy one. In a few weeks, the new “Terror” negative status effect will get added to the game. It has a chance to activate at the start of the turn, causing the affected troop to move one slot down. This will make Essence of Evil significantly worse, because crippled front troops may then spontaneously make room for something dangerous, to pick up skull matches right when their turn starts. ---
**Author:** ![allthatisjosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@allthatisjosh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/allthatisjosh)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/6 "2023-11-15T05:29:38Z")
Here you go @McDoubleDad, this could be something to spend ingots on. Removing upgrades you don’t want. I would gladly spend ingots to de-hex most of my hexing weapons. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/7 "2023-11-15T14:12:15Z")
Why not change the last weapon upgrade for Essen of Evil to something else instead of Hexed. ---
**Author:** ![redmist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redmist/32/59905_2.png) [@redmist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/redmist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/8 "2023-11-15T16:31:25Z")
I like that idea, too, but it doesn’t come at a cost to the player (unless they were _happy_ with Hexed) ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/9 "2023-11-15T16:41:45Z")
> [@WhoDat](#): > > Why not change the last weapon upgrade for Essen of Evil to something else instead of Hexed. Because this is Gems of War, a never-ending exercise in lowering your expectations. The Customer Experience Team actually asked the community years ago to compile a list of weapons that have detrimental upgrades. The list was long, the effort entirely wasted. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/10 "2023-11-15T17:13:18Z")
Tell you the truth: I lowered my expectations a long time ago after many evidences that they don’t care about their fan base and all their empty promises. Unfortunately, this is the sad truth. ---
**Author:** ![Kelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kelana/32/88601_2.png) [@Kelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kelana)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/11 "2023-11-16T03:17:41Z")
Is there a list somewhere of the troops/weapons that should not be upgraded and why? ---
**Author:** ![Anam\_Cara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/anam_cara/32/103620_2.png) [@Anam\_Cara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Anam_Cara)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/limited-time-offer-to-remove-weapon-upgrades/82211/12 "2023-11-16T03:31:43Z")
I did a search and found a couple threads: > [@Weapon affixes feedback](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/weapon-affixes-feedback/69756): > > A subjective, incomplete list of problematic affixes (legendary or higher rarity weapons): Carved, Watery, Warm, Verdant, Astral, Fiendish - create a single gem of a specific colour. The list of weapons not made worse by these is shorter than the list of weapons made (arguably) better, so I’ll go with that instead. These weapons create gems, their affix creates another gem of a matching colour: Emerald Tear, Hook Sword, Nimbus Bow These weapons destroy or remove gems, altering a large part… > [@Bad Weapon Upgrades](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/bad-weapon-upgrades/56163): > > Just out of curiosity: What property of a Weapon is considered to break it? Create a storm (so no more useful for builds which don’t like the specific storm)? Create a Gem/Skull (potential to destroy a good board Explode a Gem Destroy X Gems/Skulls Something else I forgot? I don’t want to run in a mistake that’s irreversable.