# Lil'Johnny Bronze, Shaddap You Face! **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [December 29, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438 "2016-12-29T14:18:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/1 "2016-12-29T14:18:12Z")
I had a terrible mana yesterday, and went for a spending spree just to get 3 Lil’johnny Bronzes, so I could get the new pirate kingdom to PL5. And now I am almost drained, except from some event keys. It is a disorder that is quite challenging from time to time. I know, zero logic when a new Mythic is about to be released, to spend everything.(_So no need to tell me._) In close to 200 VIP chest I got zero Johnny Bronze. One can call it bad luck. But I am just wondering if he is in the VIP chests at all? Here is what I had to spend to get 3 Lil’Johnny Bronzes: Close to 8000+ gems, included close to 200 VIP chests - Zero Johnny Bronzes 450 Gem Keys: 1 Johnny Bronze 20000 Glory - 1 Johnny Bronze 4000 Glory Keys - 1 Johnny Bronze ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/c/ce157fd59c55bcb9176f963490b6f8b27ba03dd8.gif) I want to end the thread by saying: What an idiot I am… ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/2 "2016-12-29T14:32:04Z")
I tried chasing Desmondia when she came out. I learned not to try and chase the Epics in a very similar fashion, though not quite as expensive, as you did. Did you get anything else you really wanted? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/3 "2016-12-29T14:34:57Z")
Yeah, the sad thing about the disorder is that I know before I spended everything that it was a bad idea, but still are not able to control myself. Not really, but got the last Desmondia I needed to get her to mythic, and some other Ultra rares. Really awful… ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/4 "2016-12-29T15:35:11Z")
There are 74 epics in the game (according to my notes). Glory keys are roughly 5% chance at a purple rarity, and roughly 25% of those are arcanes. So to get 74 epic troops (on average one of each) would take nearly 6000 glory keys. 20000 glory = 1000 keys + 4000 keys = 5000 keys. Works out to about a 57% chance to get 1 Johnny in 5000 keys, and you got 2. You came out ahead. Gem keys are roughly 12.5% chance at purple, and still 25% of those are arcane. Works out to about 2400 gem keys for one of each epic. So as exhaustive as it was, the math says it could (should?) have been much worse. Which I think is good evidence at needing a way to narrow our random pulls. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_video](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/5 "2016-12-29T20:20:44Z")
Wassamatta you? Gotta no respect? ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/6 "2016-12-29T21:54:29Z")
wasted 8k gems trying to get johnny bronze’…i…i…dont know what to say… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/2/22fa9f39c25129c9b12c1b464c2d8d203b396ea7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Verdugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/verdugo/32/9407_2.png) [@Verdugo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Verdugo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/7 "2016-12-29T22:59:15Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/e/5e415f79870009ec9eaf14a7c6e8408c606e441e.GIF) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/8 "2016-12-29T23:12:37Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e0b2ba6c85a41ffbf9159bb5ab86d6f29da79fcf.gif) ---
**Author:** ![LYNDALE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyndale/32/13864_2.png) [@LYNDALE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LYNDALE)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/9 "2016-12-30T00:35:50Z")
I did a 50 vip chest draw yesterday and didn’t see him but got 3 Bonnie Rose. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/10 "2016-12-30T00:48:58Z")
I don’t understand the disorder, but… Stay away from Vegas, my friend… ---
**Author:** ![MakoSipper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/makosipper/32/1933_2.png) [@MakoSipper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MakoSipper)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/11 "2016-12-30T01:02:03Z")
Did you mean “some other Epics”, did you open Gem chests, or were just really sc\*\*\*ed up by the game? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/12 "2016-12-30T14:24:36Z")
I’m pretty sure this guy put this team out hoping you’d run into him… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/a/0aa25b2123e3a0fb3e8fed01b19145b77cde502e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/13 "2016-12-30T15:19:53Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/e/4e0696d332702d14f3b6c9859260e9720f6acc9d.jpg) The irony of coming up against him. 😓 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/liljohnny-bronze-shaddap-you-face/17438/14 "2017-01-17T06:22:19Z")
I am not prepared for another hard to get Epic, to get it to Mythic… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/c/ce157fd59c55bcb9176f963490b6f8b27ba03dd8.gif)