# Let the coin decide who to start **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 21, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702 "2016-06-21T20:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/1 "2016-06-21T20:06:41Z")
Just a idea since most has 90%+ winning rate, and starting off the battle for humans has too much adventage over CPU in 90%+ of the games. So with flip a coin CPU would had the same equally chance to start matches as well. I am for this, what are yours opinion? Cheers, Eika ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/2 "2016-06-21T20:09:10Z")
I don’t think it would matter. The AI is the same whether it goes first or not. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/3 "2016-06-21T20:09:31Z")
Well, matter a little, is still better than not matter at all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/4 "2016-06-21T20:12:26Z")
I suppose. It would be really situational. AI winning coin toss and filling Maw. Not so good. AI gathering mana for my Mab massacre. Very good. ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/5 "2016-06-21T20:12:36Z")
Nobody hates their OWN 90% winning rate. They hate everyone else’s. \>.\> ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/6 "2016-06-21T20:14:11Z")
Still humans has the equal chance of winning coin toss and filling Maw, if thats the case. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/7 "2016-06-21T20:15:14Z")
There is no equality. The AI is…not very intelligent. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/8 "2016-06-21T20:15:58Z")
So my suggestion is to make it as equally as possible(which is not much, but better than nothing) for both Human and CPU. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/9 "2016-06-21T20:18:14Z")
I understand the premise, but I don’t see how it is an improvement. I am also not advocating a Dark Souls match 3 game either. ---
**Author:** ![Tactica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tactica/32/6914_2.png) [@Tactica](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tactica)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/10 "2016-06-21T20:18:18Z")
AI goes first 3 games in a row = board complaints of AI cheating. AI plays full trait Mercy, Great Maw = whining ensues on boards. Honestly, I don’t see it needing changed. The appeal of this game is, relaxing and headache free. Player goes first. It’s part of the power / fun / escapism feel. Why mess with it against AI? If players want to throw down against each other - real time, I say let them (for no rewards) and have a coin flip then ONLY. Then, for those that want to test their skills either way - have a blast, but don’t mess with the mechanic in the main game. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/11 "2016-06-21T20:19:46Z")
I just see it as a little, improvement. Nothing more, nothing less. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/12 "2016-06-21T20:25:31Z")
I’m spolied. I love going first. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/13 "2016-06-21T20:38:34Z")
ITT: if people are hating on Mercy _already…_ ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/14 "2016-06-22T04:46:42Z")
I don’t see an additional random element as being an improvement on the game, regardless of its impact on the outcome. In some cases, it would hardly matter at all, just meaning an extra 3-6 mana for one side or the other. In other cases, the whole game may hinge on the first-turn advantage, whether it be a chain of quad-matches, an empowered troop, or getting a looping engine rolling before the other team. There should be enough randomness to keep the game interesting, to give the player a reason to pay attention, something to react to, but its direct impact on the outcome should be as minimal as possible. ---
**Author:** ![MisterCranky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mistercranky/32/3824_2.png) [@MisterCranky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MisterCranky)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/15 "2016-06-22T06:03:07Z")
I like the human going first; it seems to mitigate the suspicion that the AI can drop whatever gems it feels like dropping. ---
**Author:** ![GemsOfWar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2acd7d/32.png) [@GemsOfWar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/16 "2016-06-22T08:01:04Z")
What if by opting to going second you increased the possible rewards for the battle - e.g. increase soul/gold cap, better chance for arcane traitstones etc This would allow for players to choose and if selected the slight increase in difficulty could be rewarded ---
**Author:** ![CSZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/csz/32/4784_2.png) [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/17 "2016-06-22T08:14:54Z")
If going first is so important for the match, that you deserve extra rewards for not being first… I mean… If the board contains several match-5s on the start, the beignner gains a HUGE advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Azbra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/azbra/32/23589_2.png) [@Azbra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Azbra)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/18 "2016-06-22T09:39:15Z")
If you want to reduce winning rate, I would rather suggest that they implement a timer. You need to win the match under 5 minutes. Losing because the AI is very lucky is plain boring. Losing because you could not complete the match before the end of the timer is actually more interesting ---
**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/19 "2016-06-22T11:18:37Z")
AI is already cheating with lucky cascades, no need to give the AI a chance to cheat with coins also :)) ---
**Author:** ![GodSaveUsAll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@GodSaveUsAll](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GodSaveUsAll)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702/20 "2016-06-22T11:25:45Z")
if u have more ideas like this pls unistal GOW and go play tetris. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/let-the-coin-decide-who-to-start/8702.md?page=2)