# Kraken-Forest Troll-Mab-Kraken defense teams...anyone find any good counters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [September 21, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kraken-forest-troll-mab-kraken-defense-teams-anyone-find-any-good-counters/30586 "2017-09-21T16:15:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 28
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kraken-forest-troll-mab-kraken-defense-teams-anyone-find-any-good-counters/30586/28 "2017-10-11T13:16:26Z")
> [@Would Kraken still be meta without devour?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152/15): > > You remain the only person who thinks that dragons with explosions is a counter to troll/kraken. It isn’t. It’s a good team that can win fast and often, for sure. But it isn’t a counter team, and exploding the board is very risky against meta teams. Let’s agree to disagree. But I can’t accept that you are doing something special with this team that @drathas or @RiverSong or me or anyone else isn’t able to do. Yes it’s a good team. No it’s not a reliable counter. > [@Would Kraken still be meta without devour?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152/19): > > When you say TDS, you say explosions. BTW, your team is my team, only with more Krystenax, and I win again meta with this team only if the stars align right. > [@Would Kraken still be meta without devour?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152/29): > > I read your post. You have a KrystenaxX2 - Dragon Soul - Sylvanimora team. Two of your four troops are exploders. I understand that KrystenaxX2 takes away green and purple from the board, at a high price if I may add. I can ever understand you use Sylvanimora for his webbing trait and never set him off - which would cause a stripe explosion. But TDS has to be there for a reason. My reason for using Dragon Soul is exploding the board and feeding his fellow dragons. Also pain and sorrow for all e… --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kraken-forest-troll-mab-kraken-defense-teams-anyone-find-any-good-counters/30586)._