# Kingdom power scoring glitch? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [December 9, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413 "2016-12-09T23:34:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![StormChasee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@StormChasee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StormChasee)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/1 "2016-12-09T23:34:55Z")
I have at least 3 kingdoms in which there appears to be a glitch in the kingdom power scoring. If your troops have a total of over 200 levels, the score appears to add 2 points per level instead of 10 points. Has any one else noticed that? ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/2 "2016-12-09T23:38:00Z")
Not a glitch, it is intended. Troops over 10 are worth 10 not 50 Levels over 200 are worth 2 not 10 Traits over 30 are worth 10 not 25 ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/3 "2016-12-10T00:22:44Z")
It’s intended but very confusing. Like much of the GUI in the game, it does a horrible job of explaining what’s going on and why. I feel sorry for players that never come to the forums as that’s the only way to learn 75% of what’s going on in the game. ---
**Author:** ![StormChasee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@StormChasee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StormChasee)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/4 "2016-12-10T00:34:54Z")
Will that change when they activate the last three power levels? ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/5 "2016-12-10T00:49:53Z")
> [@StormChasee](#): > > Will that change when they activate the last three power levels? Unknown at this point. My guess would be they will move the cutoff from 10 to 12 once all kingdoms are at least 10 troops. There are only 5 kingdoms with under 10 currently, 2 of which should be getting troops by year’s end. ---
**Author:** ![Mahamoti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mahamoti/32/19354_2.png) [@Mahamoti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mahamoti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/6 "2016-12-10T02:00:47Z")
Not only confusing, it looks totally arbitrary. In a kingdom with 11 troops, the 11th is arguably _harder_ to get, and should be worth the same, if not _more_. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/7 "2016-12-10T15:28:24Z")
The reason for the diminishing returns was to keep the power levels from being trivialized by having more troops. With 8 troops to reach PL5 (the max at the time) you needed all troops mythic, level 20, and all 24 traits. Not easy at all. With 9 troops if they were all 20 you only needed 14 traits or if you got 16 traits you could have up to 5 troops not ascended to mythic. So much easier. With 10 troops at 20 you only needed 4 traits. Or with just one trait per troop none of them needed to reach mythic. If there were no diminishing returns, having 11 troops at 19 would be enough to hit PL5 with no traits at all! Power level 5 is still a big milestone, so they haven’t relaxed it yet. But I’d imagine when PL10 opens up and kingdoms are all 10 troops or more they’ll rework things ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/8 "2016-12-10T17:41:16Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > Traits over 30 are worth 10 not 25 Traits are 5 from 25. 20%. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/9 "2016-12-10T17:42:16Z")
They could have accomplished the same thing without the confusion by upping the points needed to reach the higher power levels. The current system (diminishing the gain instead of upping the bar) is obtuse, unexplained, and leads to us having to answer the same question over and over here. @Sirrian, @Nimhain, please consider scaling up the bar instead in a future update. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/10 "2016-12-10T17:54:54Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > > [@Rasper](#): > > > > Traits over 30 are worth 10 not 25 > > Traits are 5 from 25. 20%. Nope, 10 after 30 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/b/b476156d3ab2af9734d782b2ed979eb8277dea09.png) 13 troops. 10 at 50 each = 500. 3 at 10 each = 30. Total 530. 32 traits. 30 at 25 each = 750. 2 at 10 each = 20. Total 770. 258 levels. 200 at 10 each = 2000. 58 at 2 each = 116. 2116 total. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/11 "2016-12-11T05:51:16Z")
Weird. So much for 20%. ---
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/12 "2017-01-16T11:09:41Z")
Bumping, cos this is needed information. would be nice to be pinned. ---
**Author:** ![GemsCollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/13 "2017-01-16T13:05:51Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > They could have accomplished the same thing without the confusion by upping the points needed to reach the higher power levels While this is true it would make reaching lower PL (e.g. PL5) much easier, just as @Rasper wrote. Still it _is_ arbitrary, unintuitive and confusing, so… maybe a little question mark in-game with pop-up explaining what’s going on? ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-power-scoring-glitch/16413/14 "2017-01-16T14:33:28Z")
I’m mostly confused by the traits not going to 20% of starting value. I fully second both requests made here.