# Just some maths on pvp leaderboard **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 3, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891 "2016-06-03T06:14:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrSnake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsnake/32/4196_2.png) [@MrSnake](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSnake)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/1 "2016-06-03T06:14:49Z")
i just wondered about the amount of games played for the current number 1 leader with around 1300 games played… this high amount of games made me calculate a little bit to see how much time is needed for this much games lets say u need 3-4 minutes for one game, this seems to be a realistic timeframe 3x 1.300 = 3.900 minutes = 65 hours 4x 1.300 = 5.200 minutes = 86,7 hours so you need between 65 and 86 hours for this much games its very hard for me to believe, that one person is playing GoW this much… the new week started (in my timezone) monday 8:00 am - now its friday 8:00 am - this is summed up 120 hours. the conclusion would be → this person is playing more then 12 hours a day without a break… am i missing something?!? currently i really dont believe this is possible! correct me please… ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/2 "2016-06-03T06:20:27Z")
I would tell you to ask @dhjl, but he seems busy trying to catch up on Sister… ---
**Author:** ![MrSnake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsnake/32/4196_2.png) [@MrSnake](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSnake)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/3 "2016-06-03T06:21:25Z")
please no namecalling - in my focus is just the needed amount of time^^ thats the reason for my topic ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/4 "2016-06-03T06:21:53Z")
I said it in a similar thread once, and I’ll say it again. A top player should be able to finish a match in 2 minutes on average, possibly even less. Also, you underestimate people’s free time and dedication. ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/5 "2016-06-03T06:23:30Z")
@MrSnake I have several “speed decks” more then Capable of winning within 90 seconds quite often 2 minutes tops (and no I don’t use Maw) so try the calculations again using 1.5 minutes and 2 minutes per match, if I can do it then other people should be able to do it even faster ---
**Author:** ![MrSnake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsnake/32/4196_2.png) [@MrSnake](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSnake)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/6 "2016-06-03T06:26:12Z")
2x 1300 = 2.600 minutes = 43.3 hours makes also one third of the whole time - what means they wont be part of some reallife actions though - or do they need no sleep and social interactions?!? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/7 "2016-06-03T06:26:23Z")
Maw, Mercy, IK, Sheggra is capable of winning consistently in about 2 minutes (on average) against most teams. ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/8 "2016-06-03T06:27:19Z")
@MrSnake 2 minutes should be just over 43 hours cutting you 4 min assertion in half, doable in the five days we’ve had to play this event ---
**Author:** ![MrSnake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsnake/32/4196_2.png) [@MrSnake](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSnake)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/9 "2016-06-03T06:28:51Z")
but Gorgotha is shown as mainly used o.O ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/10 "2016-06-03T06:29:50Z")
> [@Darkness](#): > > Maw, Mercy, IK, Sheggra is capable of winning consistently in about 2 minutes (on average) against most teams. I run Infernal King (1) Sheggra (1) Mercy (3) Star Gazer (3) As my skull spam team it wins consistently in 2 minutes or less but my 90 second team is Cresendo based ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/12 "2016-06-03T06:41:58Z")
> [@MrSnake](#): > > makes also one third of the whole time - what means they wont be part of some reallife actions though - or do they need no sleep and social interactions?!? That’s 8 hours a day, it leaves plenty of time for other things. Many people work 8 hours a day and still have time to do stuff, why is it hard to believe that someone how doesn’t work can play for 8 hours? Also, you’re only talking about one person. Is it so far fetched that one person (out of so many players) is enough of a shut-in to pull this off? You do know people like that exist, right? I’m actually surprised there are not more of them on the leaderboard. ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/13 "2016-06-03T06:53:42Z")
> [@MrSnake](#): > > but Gorgotha is shown as mainly used o.O Not in the high level meta. There it’s Maw/Mercy all the way (around 50%). Gorgotha shows up quite a lot too, but not nearly as much as Maw/Mercy teams. ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/14 "2016-06-03T06:59:00Z")
I think he meant that the top player has Gorgotha as the most used card in their profile, meaning it’s probably part of their invade team, so probably no traited maw on top. There are plenty of fast teams with Gorgotha though, true damage teams being the primary example. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/15 "2016-06-03T09:36:58Z")
As the residential math buff did you calculate for points on the high and low end then calculate time frame from that? > [@yonizaf](#): > > You do know people like that exist, right? I am one of them. Seems i am too late and others are making math threads about the pvp. i should hurry with my calculations soon. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/16 "2016-06-03T16:22:33Z")
From other games I have the experience that people with a disability that prevents them from working often go for games to fill their time (and distract them from their pain). There they also spend huge times online. 8 hours a day is a very reasonable achievement for those. Also, when I was still studying I played WoW and it tracked how much time you spent logged in on each character. By the time I finished my studies (3 years later or so) I calculated average time spent in the game at 8 hours a day… And I did still manage to finish my MSc. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/17 "2016-06-03T17:15:48Z")
I keep wondering why other people care how other players spend their time? 😕 It really isn’t anyone’s business. I’m surely not going to spend 8 hours playing PVP, but that doesn’t mean I should go around judging/questioning other players that do. ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/18 "2016-06-03T19:33:20Z")
Does the mentioned 90-120 sec game time include all the dead time around play like game start, trait animations, victory screen, etc? And is it sustainable through hours to play at that pace for hours? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/19 "2016-06-03T19:39:23Z")
I fixed some typos in the thread title: - leaderbord → leaderboard (as I am a pedant) - math → maths (as I am English and intolerant) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/20 "2016-06-03T23:28:59Z")
I swear when i get all the data compiled i will make my own math post but i have 2 studies going on with this game, one for souls and one for pvp points and sadly i have to deal with people complaining about low levels getting more points which is skewing my data. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891/21 "2016-06-04T14:43:55Z")
8 hours. ok, i wonder how many time some spend on this forum 😛 [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/just-some-maths-on-pvp-leaderboard/7891.md?page=2)