# Isn’t it time old classes were reworked? **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [November 19, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932 "2025-11-19T23:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/1 "2025-11-19T23:46:01Z")
There are so many classes just not worth using. Look at classes like diabolist or knight. Isn’t it time to give them better skills? ---
**Author:** ![mgmt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mgmt/32/102258_2.png) [@mgmt](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mgmt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/2 "2025-11-20T00:01:30Z")
like most things, it’ll never get addressed unless there’s a way to monetize it ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/3 "2025-11-20T00:10:23Z")
Reworking classes is something the team is looking at in 2026 onward ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/4 "2025-11-20T00:25:45Z")
Oh good. This is one of my most wanted features. ---
**Author:** ![Nagflar\_dv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nagflar_dv/32/100704_2.png) [@Nagflar\_dv](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nagflar_dv)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/5 "2025-11-20T06:16:06Z")
remebmer this words when forum would burn after changes will be implemented xD ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/6 "2025-11-20T13:56:49Z")
its hard to make something more useless than the current state of 80% classes ---
**Author:** ![Supa-N00b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Supa-N00b](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Supa-N00b)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/7 "2025-11-20T15:09:27Z")
Especially confusing is how most level 70 talents are better than the 100s. Further to that add in all the non sensical talents rewarding other races benefits. I have many theories on how it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Nagflar\_dv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nagflar_dv/32/100704_2.png) [@Nagflar\_dv](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nagflar_dv)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/8 "2025-11-20T22:31:49Z")
> [@DracoL1ch](#): > > its hard to make something more useless than the current state of 80% classes Devs: But not for joke - it’s not 80% useless, its about 40, but from time to time - someone just to lazy to look at them and put something other than elementalist to a team ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/9 "2025-11-20T22:34:45Z")
medal classes, it makes my autism twitch not seeing hero styled the same as the other troops. seeing the gold medal decoration on hero would scratch my brain nicely ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/10 "2025-11-20T22:47:59Z")
> [@Nagflar\_dv](#): > > But not for joke - it’s not 80% useless, its about 40, but from time to time - someone just to lazy to look at them and put something other than elementalist to a team its definitely higher than 40%. There’s 38 Kingdoms and there’s no shot I’m using 19 of those classes for 50% usage. Even the ones I do use sometimes, a majority of them I wish was a little stronger/had more synergies (like Archmagus starting with a Purple Storm) ---
**Author:** ![Nagflar\_dv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nagflar_dv/32/100704_2.png) [@Nagflar\_dv](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nagflar_dv)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/11 "2025-11-20T22:57:10Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > its definitely higher than 40%. There’s 38 Kingdoms and there’s no shot I’m using 19 of those classes for 50% usage. Even the ones I do use sometimes, a majority of them I wish was a little stronger/had more synergies (like Archmagus starting with a Purple Storm) Archer Archmagus Bard Deathknight Doomsayer Dragonguard Elementalist Frostmage Geomancer Mechanist Shaman Slayer Spiritwalker Stormcaller Sunspear Thief Tidecaller Titan That’s the classes i use in different modes often - it’s 18, so almost half. Others are used from time to time for a weekly events BTW Archmagus have no purple storm - the only one who have with a 50% mana at a start is a thief ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/12 "2025-11-20T23:22:42Z")
> [@Nagflar\_dv](#): > > BTW Archmagus have no purple storm - the only one who have with a 50% mana at a start is a thief I know that, I said I wish Archmagus had a purple storm start. One of the nice things about Gems of War is that it has a lot of options and some people will find more viable things than others. So, if that’s the list you like to use, cool. Personally, some of those classes on the list, I wish had some changes (and some those classes, I don’t use). ---
**Author:** ![Nagflar\_dv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nagflar_dv/32/100704_2.png) [@Nagflar\_dv](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nagflar_dv)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/13 "2025-11-20T23:33:42Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > I said I wish Archmagus had a purple storm start. My misunderstanding, sorry) ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/14 "2025-11-21T00:10:03Z")
> [@Supa-N00b](#): > > Further to that add in all the non sensical talents rewarding other races benefits. Class traits should say something like “allies of my race”, not “ally centaurs” or whatever. So, like if your hero were a centaur and one other ally was a centaur, the trait would count for both of you, so if that same trait was in another class, and that class made the hero a goblin, it would no longer count for centaurs, and would now count for goblins. Hopefully they rework them to be even better than that, but the current system of having classes share trees, and having traits in those trees that don’t match that class, is weird and bad. ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/15 "2025-11-21T00:11:55Z")
Also, obligatory whenever anyone mentions reworking existing classes. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/2/e25dff9defbc87a24bdca880d232fb307f68c01d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/16 "2025-11-21T00:26:59Z")
Not that my comment matters, but… Much like Sunspear and Stormcaller, there should be other classes that have “Create an xx storm when my turn begins.” Imo, these should be: Archmagus for 🟣, Warden for 🟢, Knight for 🟤, and Tidecaller for 🔵. (I’m just trying to replace the horrible final traits, except for Archmagus, with _much_ better ones). The talents (especially the level 100 ones, besides fortitude, fire blade, and assassinate, need **massive** revisions). Trusting the devs with that is…oh boy…well…Houston, I think we’re going to have some problems.🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/17 "2025-11-21T00:33:18Z")
To be clear, I don’t want elementalist nerfed. I just want decent balance. The problem is that I have no confidence we’ll actually get that, and I suspect the closest we’d get is a small nerf to elementalist and buffs to everything else, but that’s unlikely. What we have (aprox): ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/8/d836a4eab8a93f7a862bdf8896c15bf783f3dfe6.png) What we’d like: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/0/5044e6bca724b1b9262fa96f6dd34e250bde6382.png) What we’d be happy with: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/3/4324fdf8677482951d88490490536e2c6e244064.png) What we expect the devs would actually do (any of the below): ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/2/f2c37acf1d3dd6c131971353eac448bc2bd4bf19.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/d/cd26c1fcbd7e6e46281b635735e7a306759edd98.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/7/27a5a33d3456ec3d6618268698b0b17604d888c6.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/5/957be4b16da77db1aa9a879063cbdba47469f837.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/6/564fc134aad60f43fe7e1f8e0f9eb8451a8b3e57.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e6edd2ae0697b711e012dc5e59df8b8ea22230e5.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/5/e5054d8139a5bce4a745e5fbe778bff3281cb872.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/d/dd8d2ca4bdefd028b2147d81730d13249686f30f.png) In fact, might as well place bets now. ---
**Author:** ![Nagflar\_dv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nagflar_dv/32/100704_2.png) [@Nagflar\_dv](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nagflar_dv)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/18 "2025-11-21T00:45:57Z")
> [@Zuul-Emo](#): > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/d/dd8d2ca4bdefd028b2147d81730d13249686f30f.png) Too many fingers) ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/19 "2025-11-21T02:06:02Z")
Didn’t see it until after I posted it. My bet is on that one, now. ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/isn-t-it-time-old-classes-were-reworked/88932/20 "2025-11-23T14:59:06Z")
Lawwwwl thats hilarious