# Is the Paladin back?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [December 22, 2015, 6:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238 "2015-12-22T06:40:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 6:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/1 "2015-12-22T06:40:39Z")
Fought against an old school paladin team today. Still won but it was a near thing. With all the stat bonuses, is the Paladin back?! I loved my old school Paladin team! ---
**Author:** ![7ekn00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/7ekn00/32/5532_2.png) [@7ekn00](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/7ekn00)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/2 "2015-12-22T06:47:17Z")
I like using the Mang on those Paladins šŸ˜› Severely weakens them while giving me 100+ Attack !! 7 ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 6:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/3 "2015-12-22T06:51:18Z")
So thatā€™s a ā€œnoā€ then? ---
**Author:** ![7ekn00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/7ekn00/32/5532_2.png) [@7ekn00](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/7ekn00)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/4 "2015-12-22T07:02:15Z")
Paladins, Cyclops, Shadowhunters, Blade Dancers all work surprisingly well in this new era of massive stats šŸ˜› I occasionally run Herdmaster, Blade Dancer, Cyclops, Gorthgotha for a bit of explosive fun ā€¦ Have seen Blade Dancer hit other troops for 20+ each and Cyclops hit for 25+ šŸ˜‰ 7 ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 10:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/5 "2015-12-22T10:18:11Z")
Now that I finally got Shadow Hunter, I am amazed at his strength with all the huge life stats. He deals 10 or something buffed by all enemy life. Super blows of 35-50 to the healthiest enemy. ---
**Author:** ![xSidarothx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xsidarothx/32/478_2.png) [@xSidarothx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xSidarothx)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 10:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/6 "2015-12-22T10:23:44Z")
I tried paladin myself a bit. I would say he is as good as he always was. Good for some quick, bad hits but risky as ever, if not even more risky. With the massive increase in HP it becomes even more perilous to rely on him. After his armour is gone (bone dragon anyone?) or after he has taken a hit or two he is virtually useless. It was so before but now his base damage is even worse in comparison to the average HP. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/7 "2015-12-22T10:51:50Z")
> [@xSidarothx](#): > > After his armour is gone Aha, but in 2019 when I unlock his last Trait, he will regenerate his Armour! ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/8 "2015-12-22T10:55:51Z")
Am I the only one around here who thinks a regen of 1 is mostly worthless when you are getting hit for upwards of 20? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 11:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/9 "2015-12-22T11:01:52Z")
Donā€™t spoil it, Iā€™ll be saving for ages to unlock that! ---
**Author:** ![xSidarothx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xsidarothx/32/478_2.png) [@xSidarothx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xSidarothx)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/10 "2015-12-22T11:18:15Z")
One of the weakest traits imo. Even more so because it looks kind of cool at the first glance ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/11 "2015-12-22T12:05:00Z")
I just blew over 1000 gems trying to get my Arcane Light rune to get that final traitā€¦ and failed šŸ˜¢ I guess itā€™s just not meant to be. ---
**Author:** ![utfanx2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/utfanx2/32/525_2.png) [@utfanx2](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/utfanx2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/12 "2015-12-22T12:21:15Z")
> [@ctu1208](#): > > I just blew over 1000 gems trying to get my Arcane Light rune to get that final traitā€¦ and failed šŸ˜¢I guess itā€™s just not meant to be. You could buy the $50 Divinion bundle and get 10x Arcane Light stones. šŸ˜† ---
**Author:** ![madking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/madking/32/62439_2.png) [@madking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/madking)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/13 "2015-12-22T12:34:34Z")
I love paladin teamsā€¦especially with my Dragons lineup with Bone Dragon in 1st position šŸ˜ˆ ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/14 "2015-12-22T13:13:00Z")
What we really need is a troop that recovers full armor, like a blacksmith or something. I mean Emperina has no trouble restoring a 40+ Life troop to full, and adding to it! Armorā€™s earned some well deserved love finally. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/15 "2015-12-22T15:31:00Z")
> [@utfanx2](#): > > You could buy the $50 Divinion bundle and get 10x Arcane Light stones. Nah, saving for the gem sale. Arcane Light is not the only stone I need, so gems are a lot more versatile. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/16 "2015-12-25T15:08:48Z")
> [@Machiknight](#): > > Am I the only one around here who thinks a regen of 1 is mostly worthless when you are getting hit for upwards of 20? Finally got the armor-repairing trait. I have to say Iā€™m loving it so far. Itā€™s great for recovering from splash or AOE damages. Whereas before the trait, the paladin is effectively useless whenever it takes so much as a bruise. As for getting hit for 20+ attackā€¦ well, if the Paladin is ever in the frontline position where it is open to Skull damage, then usually the game is already going down the gutter anyway. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/17 "2015-12-26T07:36:33Z")
when you fight something and you cant over speed its regen and it gets stronger the more you hit it then the game is already in the gutter for you. See ogre tribe challenge here. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 7:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/18 "2015-12-26T07:51:22Z")
I took down that tribe in about 5 turnsā€¦ šŸ˜³ Guess thatā€™s the benefit of being around so longā€¦a few thoughts come to mind @killerman3333 1. what team / strategy are you using? I used a skeleton-based team + Orb - and Aziris though heā€™s not really necessary - you need big skull hits, not spell damage here - and AoE wonā€™t help much 2. might be that the challenges havenā€™t been scaled well for your level - what level are you? newer players shouldnā€™t face that ogre challenge with all the traitsā€¦ so a balancing issue for the devs ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 8:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-the-paladin-back/2238/19 "2015-12-26T08:06:08Z")
i used myself sun/moon goblin alchemist Templar it was too slow and i got ran over then i thought rockworm rockworm acolyte valkyrie it worked meh 30% maybe of the time noticed more loses than wins but still got my moneys worth. then i was like lets go for broke and went with serpent serpent valkyrie valkyrie i got my moneys worth and souls worth and it got me wins more than loses but it feels a little slow to me but the souls and the money though was good. i then got frustrated and said why not pull my skeletons out of the closet and before you ask i do not have slime so skeleton skeleton skeleton giant spider i thought it would work but then it failed worse than the first set and i was like ok that was dumb and never again time to shove the skeletons back in the closet were they belong. i then relised why not fight fire with fire and went with ogre priestess black beast summoner way too slow but it wins with alot of awesome destruction of earth shaking proportions so i just went with serpent/valkyrie got souls and gold out of it but i think i can make a faster team than serpent/valk that requires no thinking on my part (Iā€™m not sans i swear) Any thoughts on possible faster builds?