# Is people so used to win that a few losses is too much?

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [June 7, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263 "2017-06-07T18:12:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/21 "2017-06-07T21:18:35Z")

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I’m with you bruda. I have 94.8 win % on invades. Every time i see a QQ tread about cheating AI i can’t believe that i am even seeing that.  
Like are those people for real?

At some point @Widgetmaker managed to go well above 1000 win streak, and the streak only broke because of server errors. Why isn’t the cheating AI included for him?  
Don’t look at me, I’m a noob, i didn’t pass 200 win streaks.  
But i am still at 94.8 win rate.

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### Author: ![Nilbogz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nilbogz/32/16636_2.png) [@Nilbogz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nilbogz)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/22 "2017-06-07T21:20:19Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> The CPU is absolutely horrible with using Famine. It always picks terrible targets and unfortune moments to fire it, It fires wildly, attacking low priority targets or targets it can’t oneshot while there are available targets with higher priority it could just kill. It fires regardless of how much mana is collected on the other side missing out on opportunities to completely control the enemy team and grinding it to a halt while picking them off one by one.  
> Please imagine this troop with a smarter AI, only targetting what it can kill, only firing when at least one enemy troop is at 50-75% mana controlling your manaprogression 100% etc. the game will be unbearable.

I think improving the AI by creating rule sets for each individual troop instead of a blanket “AI always does X first, if X is not available, do Y” Your description of adjusting Famine is a great start. If there were these “rules” for other troops, it would make the AI smarter. Yes, players will eventually figure out how to manipulate them but it should make a lot of troops more viable in the defense role.

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### Author: ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/23 "2017-06-07T21:25:53Z")

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> [@DonBoba](#):
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> I’m with you bruda. I have 94.8 win % on invades. Every time i see a QQ tread about cheating AI i can’t believe that i am even seeing that.

Well I’ve been facing this cheating console AI and my PvP win rate is 98.2%. So maybe that explains my opinion? (oh edit I don’t think it cheats)

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### Author: ![Clark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clark/32/29631_2.png) [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/24 "2017-06-07T21:49:56Z")

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This! This! This, a thousand times this!

> [@Venar](#):
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> It’s not about losing, most of us don’t really care, the stakes are so low.  
> It’s about the game becoming frustrating and boring .

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/25 "2017-06-07T21:52:07Z")

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So if it is about the game becoming frustrating and boring? Why do the people even play the game in first place?

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/26 "2017-06-07T21:53:16Z")

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this…

If there was only 1 thing that I could get added to the game, then it’s a fast forward button that switches speed to x2 or x4 while the ai finishes it’s moves.

I really like the game… I really like to play it… but sitting there watching the ai just takes to long, when I want to doing something.

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/27 "2017-06-07T21:53:44Z")

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You ask for a discussion, yet you keep attacking people.  
I wish we could get passed that ☹

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/28 "2017-06-07T21:53:52Z")

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> [@Mad\_Butch](#):
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> I really like the game… I really like to play it… but sitting there watching the ai just takes to long, when I want to doing something.

Why dont you just skip the entire game? It looks quite like a work for you. 🙂 Or are you adding far too much sugar on the cake again, like you always tend to do in a form or another? 😉

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/29 "2017-06-07T21:54:13Z")

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And there you go again…

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/30 "2017-06-07T21:54:50Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Lets have a discussion!

That’s you in your original post…

So how about it?

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/31 "2017-06-07T21:55:02Z")

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Even me liked that reply of yours, lets not go there again. hehe 😃

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/32 "2017-06-07T21:59:58Z")

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One thing I do like to add still, is that I think there is a big difference between people that are really end game, and people who are still playing to get there.

I think the first category is looking for a way to find new challenges.  
The later is looking for a way to get to the end game.

So whats “in the way” for one group, is fun for the other.

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/33 "2017-06-07T22:01:10Z")

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And I’m not saying one or the other is right, it’s just something to keep in mind while wondering where those different opinions originate from.

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/34 "2017-06-07T22:01:22Z")

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> [@Mad\_Butch](#):
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> I think the first category is looking for a way to find new challenges.  
> The later is looking for a way to get to the end game.

Yeah, I agree, thats why its so hard to come up with new troop ideas, I think, the troops sometimes needs to fit all the levels of players, and thats just not simple.

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### Author: ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/35 "2017-06-07T22:02:06Z")

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/36 "2017-06-07T22:02:27Z")

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Please… 😂

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### Author: ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/37 "2017-06-07T22:02:31Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> So if it is about the game becoming frustrating and boring? Why do the people even play the game in first place?

people play the game in the first place because it makes them feel good and happy by winning. when the game becoming frustrating and boring, more people complain.

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### Author: ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/38 "2017-06-07T22:02:55Z")

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I thought they said no more selfies V!

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/39 "2017-06-07T22:03:29Z")

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> [@jeno](#):
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> people play the game in the first place because it makes them feel good and happy by winning. when the game becoming frustrating and boring, more people complain.

Ah, it cant be that bad then, since they doesn’t quit, right?

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### Author: ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-people-so-used-to-win-that-a-few-losses-is-too-much/25263/40 "2017-06-07T22:03:32Z")

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Lol my profile pic is a selfie

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