# Is Ketras the Bull worth event keys? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [September 10, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650 "2018-09-10T13:21:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@back](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/back)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/1 "2018-09-10T13:21:46Z")
Thinking of Ketras for PVP invade, delve, and guild wars in order of importance. Maybe Alchemist / Moneylender / Ketras / Megavore. Current PVP invade: Mountain Crusher / Infernus / Captain Skullbeard / Fire Bomb Current Delve yellow/brown: Divinia / Devoted / Infernus / Ishbaala My mythics: Arachnaean Weaver, Doomclaw, Draakulis, Infernus, Megavore, Pharos-Ra, War My legendaries–everything except: Abhorath, Gar’Nok, Queen Mab, Queen Titania, Saguaro, Sekhma, Sheggra, Umberwolf, imps. If there’s ever a Tauros hero class, I’ll be happy to have Ketras and Ragereaver, the new siege weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/2 "2018-09-10T14:01:48Z")
I have this fun, and somewhat competitive team: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/7/67ba476362dc33f47624a65c1581200403c3c4b3.jpeg) Matching red for Rock Troll buffs Ketras. Rock Troll feeds Ketras and Emperina. Emperina and Sunweaver are Cheerleaders for Ketras. About event keys… I think you must evaluate it based on what else you want from each kingdom, because being very honest your chances to pull a Mythic are always bad with Event Keys. Wild Plains has some of the worst troops in the game, Ketras, Sunweaver, Minogor and Chief Stronghorn are the best you can get from it… ---
**Author:** ![GrumpySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GrumpySmurf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GrumpySmurf)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/3 "2018-09-10T14:22:48Z")
I don’t like to tell people how to spend their resources, that can be very individual dependent (willingness to spend money, acquisition rate, etc…). I’ll share my opinions on him instead, do with the information what you wish. -I use my Ketras frequently personally. I use him for Pet rescue a bunch (Divinia-Ketras-Infernus-Ishbaala), and he’s also part of one of my red/green/brown GW teams (not always used there). I have a Tauros team (Soothsayer/Ketras/Stronghorn/Sunweaver) built but rarely use it except for the odd daily task, it works better on paper than practice. -I like Yao better than Ketras for the Hellcat/Alchemist combo (or Alchemist/Moneylender), as Yao can keep the loop moving. Especially if you want to use with Megavore, Yao is a better option there as Ketras would block 2/3 colors on Megavore. -IMO, of your mythics he’d be around 4th best, behind Infernus/Megavore/Weaver. ---
**Author:** ![Thunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thunder/32/39233_2.png) [@Thunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thunder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/4 "2018-09-10T15:59:40Z")
Very good troop ---
**Author:** ![BilboBaghead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bilbobaghead/32/48335_2.png) [@BilboBaghead](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BilboBaghead)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/5 "2018-09-10T16:36:06Z")
I like Ketras, but for me he doesn’t see much use outside of GW or Divine Team when I fancy a change from Ubastet. I wouldn’t use Event keys though as the rest of the troops from the kingdom aren’t that great. ---
**Author:** ![Munition809](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Munition809](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Munition809)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/6 "2018-09-10T16:40:09Z")
One of my favorite troop he can 1 shot a troop and weakened others. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/7 "2018-09-10T17:24:54Z")
This is slightly the wrong question. Here’s the best one to ask for this decision: “What do I lack that is better than Ketras the Bull?” Ketras is a slightly-worse Ubastet or Infernus. So if you’re missing one or both of those, save up for them instead. Ketras can’t farm souls like Pharos-Ra. So if you’re missing that, it might be a better choice. Then there are legendaries like Divine Ishbaala or Emperor Khorvash that are the backbone of many good teams. Ketras is better with them so they’re a good choice. But if you can’t think of something you’d rather get with Event Keys than Ketras, this is the week to spend them. I do think Ketras is on the list of “worth spending event keys for” troops. ---
**Author:** ![back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@back](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/back)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/8 "2018-09-10T19:16:09Z")
Thanks everyone for posting your teams! > [@Razzagor](#): > > Wild Plains has some of the worst troops in the game > [@BilboBaghead](#): > > I wouldn’t use Event keys though as the rest of the troops from the kingdom aren’t that great. I was thinking that ascending cards isn’t game changing compared to a good mythic. But maybe that’s foolish and I should use diamonds for Ketras and event keys for Ubastet. In Pridelands I have 0 Sekhma and 2 Behemoth. Shadow-hunter and Rakshanin aren’t fully ascended either. Of course I can try for Ketras now, but it may be a long wait for Pridelands event week. I have over 800 event keys saved, might use 500 to 700 and save some for places like Glacial Peaks or Drifting Sands to spend enough to get an unowned legendary, where I’d also be happy with the mythic. Other unowned legendaries I’d wait to get from glory and gem chests. > [@GrumpySmurf](#): > > I use him for Pet rescue a bunch (Divinia-Ketras-Infernus-Ishbaala) Is this team able to get through all levels in a reasonable time, for some pet colors? That would be a big plus for me. Lately I’m using a doomskull team which is slow on early levels, but my Infernus team can’t handle high levels. I don’t like to swap teams in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/9 "2018-09-10T19:32:24Z")
I think we won’t have any event in Pridelands this year… To help you with some decisions like this you can save the following links in you bookmarks: A spreadsheet with spoilers for traitstones that will be on Glory packs and what will be required in future releases courtesy of Turintuor: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hvL6AijrIk4B2HHAh0A9yh3J7jVHlN2DV54fINvRkV8/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hvL6AijrIk4B2HHAh0A9yh3J7jVHlN2DV54fINvRkV8/edit#gid=0) And a spoiler site with preview of the next upcoming troops, spell and trait details too as well as some other function, courtesy of Taran: [https://www.taransworld.com/](https://www.taransworld.com/) GoW databse site wich also provides a great database to consult with also many functions to help you, courtesy of Lyya: [http://gowdb.com/](http://gowdb.com/) I hope this helps you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GameTagwastaken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ab992/32.png) [@GameTagwastaken](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GameTagwastaken)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/10 "2018-09-10T19:49:20Z")
Good resources, @Razzagor Taransworld also has expected drop rates (although Lyya has explained that they are not gospel, the file that contains the data is client-side but the RNG actually happens server-side). [https://www.taransworld.com/Chest](https://www.taransworld.com/Chest) You can input a number of keys that you intend to use to get an estimated drop chance. In this case, 800 event keys gives you a 53.62% chance at walking out with Ketras. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/11 "2018-09-10T21:21:10Z")
Short answer - no. Longer answer - no mythic is worth the event keys. Because event keys are so expensive/scarce and mythics are so rare from them that chasing the mythic in event keys is not a cost effective. You can do a “soft chase” if you still need other legendaries from the kingdom or even if you still need to _ascend_ other legendaries from the kingdom. In a two legendary kingdom, you’ll generally have mythic’d both or close to it by around 500 or 600 event keys, while the chances of a base mythic from an event key are about 1/1042. Since both of these represent _at least_ several weeks worth of event keys, even in guilds that get _a lot_ of legendary tasks, and months for everyone else, the smart money is on using event keys for _mostly_ targeting new legendaries that enter. And since both legendarily from Wild Plains are both, shall we say… less than desierable, I probably wouldn’t even do a “softer chase” here on even a lower level account (ie, stop at _1_ copy of each legendary) unless I had resources to burn. Use your diamonds to craft specific mythics you really want. This also has the benefit of Mythics appearing about once every \< two months in the soulforge, where legendaries have about five month rotation already (and both continue to bloat and get further and further apart the more get added). As an aside, Ketras is definitely worth _having_ as a high damage sniper and overall damage and one of the better mythics that can actually do this. There are just at least a few mythics that I’d probably want _before_ him, and I wouldn’t target him through event keys _at all_ because the legendaries in this kingdom are both kinda bad. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/12 "2018-09-10T21:45:07Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Longer answer - no mythic is worth the event keys. Because event keys are so expensive/scarce and mythics are so rare from them that chasing the mythic in event keys is not a cost effective. I’d have to disagree. There comes a point where players will own every legendary and most mythics except about 5 or less. Asking those players to pull them from chests on non-exclusive weeks is truly harsh and even less cost effective. The other alternative is asking them to build all 5 in the forge which sounds good on paper, but there’s no guarantee they’ll continue getting all new mythics moving forward which will move the goal post more and more as time goes by. As long as there’s a reasonable expectation to only spend enough keys to get 1 copy of the new legendary troop every 3 weeks for awhile and aren’t pulling for anything on any other week, you’ll gradually gain enough event keys depending on how active your guild is and how active you are (tributes of glory and/or gems). At that point, it doesn’t hurt to try for mythics as long as there’s no expectation to always obtain it. Just like any mythic, it comes down to luck. Priorities do matter though and it’s not like there’s enough keys to pull for mythics every week. I’ve managed to get Draakulis (during Umberwolf week), Jotnar Stormshield (my only 1), Stonehammer, and 2 Elemaugrim (during Divinia week, didn’t even need them) from Event keys. The first 3 I tried for and the 2 Elemaugrims came naturally trying to mythic Divinia. ---
**Author:** ![Zepp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zepp/32/42136_2.png) [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/13 "2018-09-10T21:47:11Z")
Aren’t we still in the Megavore-only stage? I don’t think Ketras will be available for at least a few more days. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/14 "2018-09-10T21:47:40Z")
I got him in invasion tier shop ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/15 "2018-09-10T21:49:03Z")
Ketras is available in the Event chests. (and Megavore isn’t) ---
**Author:** ![TheDragonSeoul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thedragonseoul/32/17754_2.png) [@TheDragonSeoul](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheDragonSeoul)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/16 "2018-09-10T22:15:03Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Longer answer - no mythic is worth the event keys. I agree with this, however… > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > I’d have to disagree. There comes a point where players will own every legendary and most mythics except about 5 or less. Asking those players to pull them from chests on non-exclusive weeks is truly harsh and even less cost effective. I agree with this, too. As Mithran stated, specifically targeting a Mythic in event chests is not really an optimal use of event keys. But, as TheIdleOne mentioned, if you already possess all legendary troops, you have a chance at a specific Mythic troop you do not own _ **and** _ have adequate resources to throw at attempts, then why not? That being said, that feeling you get upon pulling a Mythic you do not own from event chests, _and_ doing so with limited resource expenditure, has to be one of the few that cannot be replicated. Seriously, I’m _ **still** _ glowing after getting Infernus to drop in 150 event chests a few days ago. 🥳 Then, again, it _actually_ cost me _gems_, not event keys… precisely _2,025 gems_ to open three bundles of fifty event chests. So, I suppose that could be considered by some as not “limited resource expenditure.” Totally worth it tho, imho. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/17 "2018-09-10T22:20:05Z")
The worse thing about using events keys is playing the “Carpal Tunnel Syndrome Minigame” a.k.a. buying Event Keys one by one in the Glory Shop… ---
**Author:** ![JayJay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jayjay/32/45436_2.png) [@JayJay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JayJay)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/18 "2018-09-10T23:02:40Z")
Click 200 times for 100 event keys… Harsh. Then not having mythic. Booom. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/19 "2018-09-10T23:07:15Z")
_Just waiting for @Doordash_Support to come here and post “Pay to click.”_ 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650/20 "2018-09-10T23:55:24Z")
_clears throat_ Ketras is a good troop. On the topic of bull… pay for BULL _beeeeeep_ events are not good. 😉 EDIT: However, I would recommend forging him over trying to get him with event keys, as I typically only use those for new kingdom events to have the most chance of getting new troops. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-ketras-the-bull-worth-event-keys/45650.md?page=2)