# Is gloomleaf worth traiting?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\
**Created:** [April 12, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534 "2016-04-12T17:13:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/1 "2016-04-12T17:13:29Z")

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we have salamander, and thus red/green stones this week is it worth traiting the tree? he seems so much less scary than he did at level 15…

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/2 "2016-04-12T17:23:01Z")

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His unique trait and his huge are really nice, but he is limited to stealing only 2 attack from each troop, and he just doesn’t feel as strong as Treant.

I may not have found his niche yet. When he had stoneskin, he was really strong and intimidating to me, now he just doesn’t feel that way, and I can’t explain it.

I think I may combine him with Celestia and Emperina, but at that point, why even have Gloom Leaf around.

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/3 "2016-04-12T17:32:31Z")

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yea the loss of stoneskin and getting that legendary trait instead feels like a huge nerf.

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**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/4 "2016-04-12T17:44:27Z")

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To me his trait is to passive and to expensive to be worth the expense of grind. He is too soft and relies on the enemy attacking while not doing enough to boost himself.

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**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/5 "2016-04-12T17:59:22Z")

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For some reason Thorns seems scarier on paper then in practice. However it’ll trigger if Gloom Leaf has barrier enabled, he gets zero dmg while the attacker gets skewered. I also remember a thread stating that the Lethal trait on Archer will cause the Hero to self destruct against the Thorns ability, but how often would that happen?

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/6 "2016-04-12T18:17:48Z")

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Things might change once Console players start unlocking Legendary 3rd Traits (I literally haven’t seen a single one yet in almost 500 PvP matches) but I absolutely love seeing Gloom Leaf on the enemy Team. I just use Bone Dragon and wait for Corruption to be casted, then I get 20+ Skulls off of Strip Flesh. Easy wins every time.

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/7 "2016-04-12T19:38:28Z")

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so this week’s traitstones kinda suck ☹

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**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/8 "2016-04-12T19:43:42Z")

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It was Royalty to who posted that one if you want to chase the thread down. They are basically saying that since the archers trait does 1000 dmg to auto kill that the hero gets the precentage it return splashed back. I don’t like it personally, it’s the only time in the game that damage is applied at a value greater then damage and armor.

> [@Archer vs Gloom Leaf](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/archer-vs-gloom-leaf/4906):
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> I just had a game where my Archer triggered Bullseye (3rd trait) on Gloom Leaf. Boom, Gloom Leaf killed instantly, but i was unpleasantly surprised to see my Archer gets killed aswell. Gloom Leaf activated it’s third trait, Thorns, backfired all damage. I don’t think that supposes to happen…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Strange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mr.strange/32/2762_2.png) [@Mr.Strange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mr.Strange)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/9 "2016-04-12T21:00:28Z")

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In my opinion, ANY chance to grab arcane traitstones should be seized.

Even if you don’t want to trait Gloomleaf, there are plenty of other red/green troops that need them!

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/10 "2016-04-12T21:11:38Z")

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they mostly kinda suck no? haven’t tried chimera cuz his ability crashes the game… but if my glory is gonna go towards bundles and stones I may as well be selective right?

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**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/11 "2016-04-12T21:15:42Z")

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Because you need traits to get stars on kingdom. That being said the ultra blue reward cards have the worst value for arcanes

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/12 "2016-04-12T22:57:05Z")

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I get that but since we just got traitstones on console I need all of em and while I have a stockpile of glory it won’t last forever.

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/13 "2016-04-12T23:19:55Z")

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> [@Mr.Strange](#):
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> there are plenty of other red/green troops that need them!

Like Barbearius, Scarlett, Chimera, Salamander? I’ll pass. I don’t really like any of the Red/Green Troops. Might Trait up Chimera though, it’s a beast in Arena.

> [@DemonicDraco](#):
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> haven’t tried chimera cuz his ability crashes the game

From my experience the game will crash on random Spells, and not be tied to a specific Troop/Spell. I’ve crashed about 6-8 times since the Update, nearly all of them from different Spell casts (and the only link I have found is that it’s a Spell being cast).

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/14 "2016-04-12T23:21:25Z")

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> [@DemonicDraco](#):
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> while I have a stockpile of glory it won’t last forever.

Mine’s already gone ☹

Good thing I can accumulate over 2,000 Glory a week so I can buy 6 of the Event Troops and ascend it.

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/15 "2016-04-12T23:39:49Z")

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exactly crap troops… I dunno chimra does it everytime for me but ai ones dont…none ofthe other troops I’ve used have…

celest  
the 4 marauder goblins  
templar  
rowaine  
valk  
kos

I’ve casted all of those numerous times and plenty of others a few times when i get “win with 4 pridelands” and what not.

I figureI’ll get a few anyhow as I tend to buy the bundle whenever i get the spend glory task.

I still have almost 25k glory… but certain color combos ill want a ton of… yellow/blue purp/brown to name 2…

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/16 "2016-04-12T23:58:13Z")

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> [@TaliaParks](#):
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> Like Barbearius, Scarlett, Chimera, Salamander? I’ll pass. I don’t really like any of the Red/Green Troops. Might Trait up Chimera though, it’s a beast in Arena.

I’ll defend Chimera. Full traits for the Arcane, with the burn and poison works really nicely.

Obviously this is not a Legendary troop, but at the level players can fully trait it, it can be a powerful troop.

The difficulty with Chimera is you need another direct damage dealing troop.

I run  
Golem  
Dryad  
Chimera  
Marsh Raptor

Now there are also some hero weapons that target weakest troop.

The Golem with inscribed adds a nice defense, plus his striping of quite a lot of armor helps soften all the targets up for Chimera.

The Dryad gives you Ok green generation, a nice heal, and barrier.

Marsh Raptor targets Weakest Enemy, and has Water Link for the Dryad!

Now this isn’t some super top tier combination, but it seems very solid for not having any legendary or epic troops, and I find it a blast to play.

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/17 "2016-04-13T00:17:29Z")

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you really think the Golem’s spell is worth it? I usually don’t bother to cast it but then again I’ve got a kos in my group…

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/18 "2016-04-13T02:09:34Z")

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Short answer is yes.

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**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/19 "2016-04-13T02:31:26Z")

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hmm I’ve been thinkin of his spell as one of the worst in the game.

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-gloomleaf-worth-traiting/5534/20 "2016-04-13T02:56:16Z")

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Wrong thread my bad

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