# \[Investigating\] Incorrect GW Scores
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [February 17, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442 "2020-02-17T04:05:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@junette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/junette)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/105 "2020-09-01T16:04:57Z")
As mentioned by @Smash and @HugeOgre above here, Power Gems has yet to receive compensation from the wars before when we were supposed to place 1st in b2. So be patient on the missed gems due to bug. We are still waiting too.
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### Author:  [@Kaheradin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kaheradin)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/106 "2020-09-01T22:57:58Z")
Yeah, this is definitely not the first time our entire guild of 30 members was denied GW rewards due to bugs.
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### Author:  [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/107 "2020-09-11T18:15:28Z")
another guild war in 10 days, any update on this?
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### Author:  [@junette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/junette)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/108 "2020-09-12T19:34:50Z")
Is there certain info that we need to look for next wars to help find the bug? Certain ss from in game ? Do we need to record some battles for yall? Anything more we can do that can help yall identify this bug?
@Kafka
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### Author:  [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/109 "2020-09-14T03:59:38Z")
We’re looking into a potential fix at the moment. I’ll let you know once I have an update.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/110 "2020-09-14T04:40:40Z")
> [@HugeOgre](#):
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> even with that, AWR guild’s correct rank should have been over Palladium. and this change will give you a different set of defenders you face next month. IMO not a big deal in B2, but in B1 this can be very significant.
Both Power Gems and Palladium had more losses to our “defenders” than they did against any other guild that week.
But okay. It’s our defenses fault. 🤷♂️
If I completely misread your point then I apologise in advance.
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### Author:  [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/111 "2020-09-14T04:44:52Z")
good news, then the devs are able to replicate the scoring issue already and has planned a fix, can this be written in the known issue as well?
I really appreciate your effort on resolving this issue 🙂
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### Author:  [@Karatori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Karatori)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/112 "2020-09-14T04:51:41Z")
I don’t know the exact number of losses but it is easy to come up with scenarios where a guild with more losses can still end up scoring more mostly thanks to the top 27 rule. We had less losses heads up against na rasslabone yet they scored more in the end. Most likely because when they won, they scored more compared to our wins. Plus what if 1 or 2 people had a very bad day and had 2 or even 3 losses each? Those scores get removed though the losses are still on record for the total for that day/week.
And again I don’t know what everyone’s individual scores were and without that I can’t say exactly what happened. But I do know more wins doesn’t automatically mean you will score more for that day after everyone had played.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/113 "2020-09-14T04:53:37Z")
> [@Karatori](#):
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> And again I don’t know what everyone’s individual scores were and without that I can’t say exactly what happened. But I do know more wins doesn’t automatically mean you will score more for that day after everyone had played.
It would be nice if it did.
For daily match ups have 150/150 count towards the daily score. Then at the end of the week only count 27/30 for each guilds total score.
It should really be that easy. Because though guild wars always has had bugs. The points bug started as soon as 27/30 started. Which was a great idea that seemingly is poorly coded.
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### Author:  [@Karatori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Karatori)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/114 "2020-09-14T04:56:38Z")
Actually only 135 count daily. I watch our scores constantly and once 27 people play, the last 3 barely make a dent to the score, and that includes when all the matches are played that day.
Edit: Unless I misread what you wrote where you were wishing all 150 counted each day and then only at the end of the week the bottom 3 each day were filtered out.
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/115 "2020-09-14T04:59:16Z")
> [@Karatori](#):
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> Actually only 135 count daily
Yes, we were surprised about this ninja change 2 or 3 GWs ago.
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### Author:  [@Karatori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Karatori)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/116 "2020-09-14T05:00:38Z")
I think it had been like that since January 2020 actually.
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/117 "2020-09-14T05:09:36Z")
The top 27 scores, or the 135/150 scores counting, has been around for a while.
Wasnt a ninja change, it was a planned changed, that was requested by the community for a loooong time.
@awryan this bug has been around for years. Like, actually years, and I think not long after GW started tbh. The issue always was, lack of way of verifying it 100% that it was a bug. A lot of the time, and at times rightly so, it was passed off as a delay in the game updating, which I have seen happen before, so its not out of the realm of possibilities.
A guild that has 15 losses, but all 15 of those losses are from 3 people, can score higher than a guild that has 4 losses, and all are from a different person. Throw in some off colour troops, or slower teams, and it will bring down the average per player score for the day, which can drop you below others with the same win rate.
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/118 "2020-09-14T06:07:49Z")
> [@Smash](#):
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> Wasnt a ninja change, it was a planned changed, that was requested by the community for a loooong time.
Of course, but where is it documentated?
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### Author:  [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/119 "2020-09-14T06:09:29Z")
> [@4.7 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-7-update-patch-notes/59896/1):
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> We have made a change so that the Guild score every day will use the top 27 Guild Members’ scores (if there are more than 27 in the Guild). This means that big Guilds who have up to 3 members absent during Guild Wars don’t feel punished for this (we understand that real life happens sometimes).
🖖
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/120 "2020-09-14T06:18:33Z")
In the patch notes when it went live as AMT linked.
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/121 "2020-09-14T06:33:43Z")
Very good, also expected this from 27/30 Day-1 but didnt recognized it there.
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/122 "2020-09-14T08:44:16Z")
It has been active since it was released during the 4.7 patch.
If you havent noticed it, then thats on you. But I can 100% confirm, as I have been watching scores since before then, that the top 27 scores have been counting per day
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### Author:  [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/123 "2020-09-14T08:59:37Z")
> [@Smash](#):
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> If you havent noticed it, then thats on you.
I did, but not the initial start.
But a lot friends from other guilds (on PS4) also wondered why the daily points were less than before,
The design is not the best - i dont understand, why the worst 3 are nuot at least red highlighed or sth similar.
Btt also the bug here wourd then be easier to track.
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-incorrect-gw-scores/61442/124 "2020-09-14T12:21:13Z")
Honestly, while I would accept that and prefer it, I currently track all individual scores for each player and manually track the bottom 3, and top 3 cause why not, I think its more so others dont feel hurt they are doing bad.
BUT
Others can already see how the others are doing, and it would be easier to track the bug doing it that way as well.
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