# \[Investigating\] Cliffy Error in PVP
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-cliffy-error-in-pvp/87367
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [March 22, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-cliffy-error-in-pvp/87367 "2025-03-22T21:22:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@CaptainBuckles](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainBuckles)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-cliffy-error-in-pvp/87367/1 "2025-03-22T21:22:54Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system:** Steam, Windows 11
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**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:**
I was just about to win a PVP battle and get sigils from the valhawk when I got the above cliffy error which crashed the game.
**How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?**
This is the first time it’s happened to me in a while.
**Steps to make it happen again**
Honestly not sure what triggered it… Blood Frenzy battle in Bay of Stars.
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### Author:  [@Slayer213](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slayer213)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 6:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-cliffy-error-in-pvp/87367/2 "2025-03-23T06:15:42Z")
i posted this issue in [Cliffy errors - #7 by Slayer213](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/cliffy-errors/87324/7)
but ya, same problem for me. happens even during match loading & after winning in pvp at least.
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### Author:  [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/investigating-cliffy-error-in-pvp/87367/3 "2025-03-23T22:43:31Z")
@CaptainBuckles thanks for making your own thread, your error is different to the others we are investigating.
Which is **not the same** as the errors shared in the thread you have linked @Slayer213