# Invasion Speculation **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [February 27, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460 "2018-02-27T18:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fornico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Fornico](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fornico)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/21 "2018-02-27T23:58:37Z")
It’ll cost gems… more gems than you want to spend… but mark my words… It’ll cost you gems. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/22 "2018-02-28T00:23:06Z")
The patchnote is enough clear… > [@3.3 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-patch-notes/36039/1): > > Invasion > > Invasions are comprised of 8 Stages, each having different battles of increasing difficulty which need to be completed. > > Stage 1: Village - 0 Towers will appear in each battle > > Stage 2: Outer Keep - 1 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 3: Inner Keep - 1 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 4: Outer Castle - 2 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 5: Inner Castle - 2 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 6: Outer Fortress - 3 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 7: Inner Fortress - 3 random Tower will appear in each battle > > Stage 8: Citadel – 4 random Tower will appear in each battle > Guilds will work together to defeat towers to unlock rewards for the whole guild. > There 6 different types of Towers, each with different spells.\* Players will need to create teams using troops from a set Troop Type to fight in Invasions. Players can also bring in their hero to aid them as an alternative troop (regardless of Hero Class). - Shop would be similar - Rewards would be similar - Boss Damage → number of Tower destroyed - Kingdom troops → Troop Type troops - no Boss who can one-shot whatever troops but up to 4 mini-boss - so the goal is not to rush one troop (i.e. Boss) but to kill the 4 troops (AoE could be nicer there, DB farming?) My remaining questions are: - what the difference between Stage 6 and Stage 7 (it seems to be difficulty…)? - could every Stage can be done unlimitedly? - if no, is there a limited number of battles? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/23 "2018-02-28T03:13:30Z")
Troop Type for the first invasion will be beast ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/24 "2018-02-28T07:32:16Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > With Raid being an obvious RESOURCE DRAIN… > > Could it be possible to see Gem rewards in Invasion in comparable amounts?? haha… Invasion will be identical to Raid… just troop type instead of kingdom troop… ---
**Author:** ![NekrosLucem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nekroslucem/32/37443_2.png) [@NekrosLucem](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NekrosLucem)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/25 "2018-02-28T07:40:21Z")
As others have stated Invasion will most likely end up like Raids. In that it’ll just be another heavy pay to win mode. I’ll eat my sock if it actually ends up being something other than a pay to win mode. Butttttt I’m pretty sure my sock is safe from being gnawed. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/26 "2018-02-28T07:49:17Z")
People are abusing “pay to win” so badly it needs to go on Maury or Jerry Springer. Yes, if you want to pay to win the leaderboards, more power to you! The devs explicitly said the leaderboard was an afterthought, and the rewards were small. If the idea of small rewards is tempting enough for you to spend waaaay too much gems/$/€/£/¥/₩, go for it! But don’t be surprised if the feature works as advertised: you will spend far more gems getting on the leaderboard than you will earn from your placement. ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/27 "2018-02-28T07:56:54Z")
I don’t know what or how they will do it but I sure hope it’s different enough from the Raid that it adds some much needed variety. I also hope the rewards are better than the raid as far as time invested in matches and the measly rewards we get for these hard boss battles in the later portals (hopefully they take all the forum posts to this end and apply some changes to the invasion if they haven’t already). I’m excited about something new to do in game and as long as the “gems” are optional spends like they are in the raid I don’t care if it’s pay to win on a leader board that means nothing every 3 weeks. Cheers Calvin ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/28 "2018-02-28T08:18:32Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > I recall in the early teasers a comment something like this: “There will be GW, then Raids, then a mode we are not going to tell you about, but which is focused on RESOURCE GAIN.” > [@3.3 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-patch-notes/36039/1): > > **New: Side Events** > > Introducing 2 new Side Events: Bounty + The Vault > These new Side Events can be accessed from the Games Menu > Each Side event runs for a shorter period than weekly guild events – usually Friday to Monday. Side events will not run every week – each event will likely run about once per month. Preeeetty sure these’ll be the resource gain. ---
**Author:** ![fastesttruck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b3f665/32.png) [@fastesttruck](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/fastesttruck)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/29 "2018-02-28T08:25:45Z")
Invasion will break the game and suck even harder than raid b/c the dev team SUCKS ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/30 "2018-02-28T08:28:50Z")
> [@fastesttruck](#): > > b/c the dev team SUCKS Says the user who joined the forum two whole days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/31 "2018-02-28T08:37:27Z")
Clearly, opinions and moods differ between people who have played the game for 1118 days, and those who joined the forums less than a week ago. So this is what it’s like to be old and watch kids these days running around like the world is about to end. ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/32 "2018-02-28T20:13:25Z")
Ok so I was thinking about invasions last night and during the new preview on raids Sirrian says a small tid bit about invasions something to the effect that you will have to use (all\*) the troops for that kingdom. (\*not sure if he said all but he may have either way I’m guessing it will be all for my speculation) With that in mind here is my guess. You will have to use all of the troops of that kingdom (plus) hero in some fashion (I’m assuming they let you build the team but I think it would be interesting if they actually gave you random teams made up from the kingdom although the uproar would probably be to great from players). The end goal will be to have used all of the troops from your kingdom to defeat all of the troops (plus these defence towers which I assume will be a modified troop like a dwarven gate) by the end of each “invasion” I hope it’s awesome what ever it is 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Berothius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Berothius](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Berothius)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/33 "2018-02-28T20:58:23Z")
I do not consider 2-5% in anyway shape or form to be “all the time” That’s 5 times out of 100, STD’s have a higher hit rate than that and I would certainly not say I run into people who have STD’s ALL THE TIME ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/34 "2018-02-28T21:02:08Z")
> [@Berothius](#): > > I would certainly not say I run into people who have STD’s ALL THE TIME Well, it’s not like STD-carriers wear armbands to identify themselves or anything, so maybe that’s not the best example. In any case, let me clarify: by “all the time”, I mean that I’ve seen multiple gnomes in every play-session I’ve had since they were released. I’ve had a drought or two of 30 to 40 battles (and others have certainly experienced worse luck with some lengthy no-gnome runs), but I certainly don’t feel like they are absent from the game. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/35 "2018-03-01T07:43:07Z")
> [@Calv1n](#): > > so I was thinking about invasions last night and during the new preview on raids Sirrian says a small tid bit about invasions something to the effect that you will have to use (all\*) the troops for that kingdom. (\*not sure if he said all but he may have either way I’m guessing it will be all for my speculation) You just described raids. Invades will make you use troops of a certain type, the first invasion will be Beast Type ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/36 "2018-03-01T07:47:38Z")
@Kafka Was in global earlier tonight. She couldn’t confirm that invades will have the same tier system as raids. But did state that feedback from this week’s raids probably won’t effect any changes to Invades for next week. Too short of a turn around. I didn’t SS her statement so I can’t quote her verbatim. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/37 "2018-03-01T11:08:11Z")
I hope the per battle rewards aren’t as low as the raid battles but I have a feeling it might be about the same. Let’s hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/39 "2018-03-01T23:07:16Z")
You sir… are a champion of comedy ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/40 "2018-03-01T23:20:53Z")
I expect invasion and bounty shop to be the same then raid boss, i don’t think they did 3 different shops so tier 2 should unlock the special troop ---
**Author:** ![BRchell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/brchell/32/30489_2.png) [@BRchell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BRchell)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460/41 "2018-03-02T00:28:00Z")
Invasion is another gem suck mirror image of raid. These 2 new events have been implemented to detour farming of useful things like glory, trophies, and gold. Hey if they don’t have the resources maybe they will buy them? Just my theory of course. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/invasion-speculation/36460.md?page=3)