# Impervious vs charmed **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [September 30, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981 "2017-09-30T12:58:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/21 "2017-09-30T17:43:24Z")
I didn’t see you coming to the rescue of Cthyryzyx. … It doesn’t. Wisp already deals a lot of damage for the low mana cost and dispels. Or on the other hand - Stealthy can be replaced with Agile (20% chance to dodge skulls). Stealthy or Extra turn have to go. Keep the Charm - ignore the Impervious changes - fixt ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/22 "2017-09-30T17:58:54Z")
Impervious and not charmed is what’s broken, impervious is already immune to too much. Multiple immunities should be like the dwarf or undead trait and not cover everything. ---
**Author:** ![JuaitoR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/juaitor/32/11770_2.png) [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/23 "2017-09-30T18:27:38Z")
You’re right, I didn’t think of it at the time. Cathy needs an extra turn. ---
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/24 "2017-09-30T19:35:36Z")
I think he will stay untouched unless the whole kingdom is reworked like Orcs were. But Wisps could be addressed as they bring a lot of stress to the game. … Also, I’m not sure if Charm can be called a status effect. It’s something like “target a random enemy”. Either way - I wouldn’t like to see Impervious have immunity to charm, still. As because there are other troops who have charm and are underpowered. It would affect those, too. ---
**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/25 "2017-09-30T23:07:05Z")
Oh, don’t misunderstand, I don’t think Impervious should apply to Charm either. I’m just saying that the “Impervious also works on things that aren’t status effects” boat already sailed long, long ago, and is now well-established precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Ninertwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ninertwo/32/31489_2.png) [@Ninertwo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ninertwo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/26 "2017-09-30T23:09:45Z")
I’m going to say it again. If something can stop a friggin kraken from eating it, I’m sure a wisp can’t say “hey attack your buddies !” And succeed. 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/27 "2017-09-30T23:43:27Z")
Hey kraken, don’t they look delicious? Go take a bite! ---
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/28 "2017-10-01T02:12:14Z")
Infernus can burn a frozen target. … Logic in Fantasy games does not usually stand 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981/29 "2017-10-01T05:49:13Z")
This idea make some sense thematically, but I’m with those voices saying ‘Impervious is fine as it is, go fix Wisps properly’ [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impervious-vs-charmed/30981.md?page=1)