# I'm a loser if I win?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [August 10, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961 "2016-08-10T19:13:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/terrorist/32/11988_2.png) [@Terrorist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Terrorist)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/1 "2016-08-10T19:13:44Z")

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??

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/539c11be02554b5f125f299b33e519ff25c666ad.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/244af84175167e08e8ba1caff8702958504590a3.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/1147dbb25196590a78bdd64bf3466f29d6555800.jpg)

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**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/2 "2016-08-10T19:19:39Z")

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Where do I get the info what will be the next 2 weeks events from?

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**Author:** ![Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/terrorist/32/11988_2.png) [@Terrorist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Terrorist)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/3 "2016-08-10T19:24:55Z")

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forum or gameplay czat 🙂

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**Author:** ![Theicla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/theicla/32/3624_2.png) [@Theicla](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theicla)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/4 "2016-08-10T19:48:11Z")

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@Terrorist  
Those screenshots look much like mine for PvP. I’m not sure what the issue is that you’re describing?

What I find strange is that my Defense win/loss ratios update on the fly between battles, and apparent Revenge “loss” battles which occurred 2 hours ago can suddenly change status inside the log, right before your eyes.

Maybe they are simply being discarded from view as newer battles are listed. But it really didn’t seem that way.

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/5 "2016-08-10T20:22:40Z")

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> [@LostInLust](#):
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> Where do I get the info what will be the next 2 weeks events from?

The devs update the files a month in advance once a month. Also, Grosh-nak and Forest of Thorns are getting 3 troops for its event. First kingdoms ever to get more than 2 troops for a weekly event.

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/6 "2016-08-10T20:51:22Z")

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I really wonder how the console devs are feeling right now about this news as they try to keep up.

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**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/7 "2016-08-10T21:47:48Z")

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I see. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/8 "2016-08-10T21:56:44Z")

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Have you a video on all those troops? 3 at a time sounds tough on glory. Really difficult for console to catch up

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**Author:** ![AnalSwordfish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/analswordfish/32/9022_2.png) [@AnalSwordfish](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnalSwordfish)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/9 "2016-08-10T22:11:23Z")

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You mean _Adana_ and Forest of Thorns, right? I only see 2 troops in the future Grosh-Nak game data.

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/10 "2016-08-10T22:26:37Z")

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> [@AnalSwordfish](#):
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> game data.

Bow Lady Ogre Thing, Armored Bore, and Maw 0.5.

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**Author:** ![AnalSwordfish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/analswordfish/32/9022_2.png) [@AnalSwordfish](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnalSwordfish)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/11 "2016-08-10T22:29:39Z")

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Ah, they must’ve added bow lady ogre thing after I last looked. Thanks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/12 "2016-08-10T22:32:37Z")

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She summons the Armored Bore and all 3 of them are in the event image. I’m probably using a slightly different method to check than you. xD

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/13 "2016-08-11T02:34:40Z")

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I use a different method than you, @Tacet, and I corroborate the claim. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/14 "2016-08-11T03:48:00Z")

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This is very disappointing to hear as a Console player that is so far behind in Troop count.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/15 "2016-08-11T04:11:52Z")

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My operating assumptions:

1. @Mr.Strange is aware of the short- and long-term plans of the PC/mobile team, as it is necessary for the two teams to coordinate.
2. @Mr.Strange has told the truth when he repeatedly stated that we’re in the middle of the Plan to converge PC/mobile and Console.

Assuming both assumptions are true, then there’s little reason to worry about this being a curveball in the convergence process, and that there’s some design that has convergence take place regardless.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/16 "2016-08-11T07:31:14Z")

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I think everyone believes him when he says they will converge. The problem is no one knows when and based on troop releases over the last few months I would guess 12-18 months… which is a long time considering how many players will have left the game by then.

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**Author:** ![Theicla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/theicla/32/3624_2.png) [@Theicla](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theicla)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/17 "2016-08-11T12:55:26Z")

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@TaliaParks, you could look at it this way. Console players have a strategic advantage over anything the PC crowd experienced, because right now we know for sure that essential troops/ colours are coming next.

We’re more likely to get troops that are p̶r̶e̶-̶n̶e̶r̶f̶e̶d̶, I mean more balanced from the start.

And I _like_ having a few months of preview knowing where Glory would be best spent. Enjoy it while you can.

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**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/18 "2016-08-12T15:19:53Z")

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> [@Terrorist](#):
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> forum or gameplay czat

Polish? 🙂

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/19 "2016-08-12T15:40:08Z")

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@therealwetwilly, your order is ready!

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/0/0aca2550e0031a861d429662262846b3d9cdbee9.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/im-a-loser-if-i-win/10961/20 "2016-08-12T16:56:08Z")

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What are those?

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