# Illustration of how PVP is unfairly punitive to higher level players

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**Created:** [December 24, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/illustration-of-how-pvp-is-unfairly-punitive-to-higher-level-players/82658 "2023-12-24T22:03:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/illustration-of-how-pvp-is-unfairly-punitive-to-higher-level-players/82658/4 "2023-12-24T23:06:38Z")

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> [@Schaafy](#):
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> im pretty sure they said that you WONT lose VP from defenses

> [@7.3 Update: Battlegrounds](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/1):
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> When you lose a defense battle, there is no loss of VP (like there was with the old PvP Score). There may be a mode in a future update where VP can be lost, but in 7.3 (with Quick Battle the only mode available) there is no VP loss at this time.

It won’t help if this gets restricted to another mode. There is only one global VP counter. If you team gets auto-drafted to defend in some other mode, your VP will drain away, even when only playing Quick Battle.

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