# I'll be probably in the minority, but I'm not a fan of the raid stuff **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [February 26, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372 "2018-02-26T10:17:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![aurvandil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aurvandil/32/27945_2.png) [@aurvandil](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurvandil)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/42 "2018-02-27T00:31:40Z")
The rewards have gone up to 120 gems. Previously it was only 80 gems. if you are having some difficulty getting 750 kills, try casual PVP to cycle and pick fast 1 trophy fights. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/43 "2018-02-27T00:46:30Z")
I have to say, kudos on the well made pun. šŸ‘ŒšŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/44 "2018-02-27T00:52:42Z")
> [@Calv1n](#): > > You donā€™t need to wait this content is exactly for gamerā€™s like you Ricky you have thousands of gems and nothing to spend them on other than the new monthly mythic. In my mind this content was made explicitly for gamers like you with virtually nothing to do and spend gems on other than the 1 troop a month lottery. So why not buy the tiers and farm the boss, at this stage in the game for yourself you are at the very end of ā€œend gameā€ ? we already at portal # 9, i donā€™t need to buy tier šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/45 "2018-02-27T00:55:28Z")
You, maybe, but some of your guildmates must have, no? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/46 "2018-02-27T00:56:51Z")
of course some did, i did buy tier 2 and thatā€™s my limit, if they want to do it, itā€™s their choice i donā€™t force them ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/47 "2018-02-27T01:02:56Z")
What itā€™s the best score in your guild? Is there huge deviation in terms of score inside your guild? Portal 9 on the 1st dayā€¦ it looks like RB is too easy šŸ˜› . ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/48 "2018-02-27T01:05:56Z")
only first went crazy lol the 2nd got half of his points ther is the 6 firsts ![IMG_8830](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/0/701121140d437a20283c53cf929807156ca5bc1b.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/49 "2018-02-27T01:08:41Z")
We are way more casual than your guild RG we are only on portal 7 and our scores are all between 15.5k and 2k for our top 10. Iā€™m pretty sure you guys are in the top 1% and you arenā€™t spending the gems than Iā€™d say this experiment is a failure as you are the only ones that have it to spend for the most part šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/50 "2018-02-27T01:16:41Z")
We are portal 7 top, with 10 ppl on 0ā€™s so I hope we can at least get to portal 10 by Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![aurvandil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aurvandil/32/27945_2.png) [@aurvandil](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurvandil)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/51 "2018-02-27T01:44:16Z")
For me, the optimal Tier seems to be Tier 2 to get the Godslayer troop to take out the Boss. The cost for this is 100 gems. They have however raised the gem reward for the weekly event. Assuming you had previously maxed on your weekly event, your gem usage for the week would increase only marginally if you stop at Tier 2 (20 gems ?). In return, the rewards for the Raid Boss would seem better than than the previous GW so all in all, I see it as a resource gain if you limit yourself to just Tier 2. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/52 "2018-02-27T01:47:28Z")
First xbox now 95k damages lol Wonder how it represent in gems but he clearly will be in the red when only getting 700 gems ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/53 "2018-02-27T02:44:59Z")
Some players forget that they give each week around 340 gems to get some stats for GW (so no reward)ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/54 "2018-02-27T02:48:09Z")
Not my case šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/55 "2018-02-27T10:13:38Z")
Iā€™ve decided to quit the game. This is a ridiculous way to play the game, so iā€™ll be floating in now and then til i leave just before the next GW. ---
**Author:** ![EnsignGarak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ensigngarak/32/17147_2.png) [@EnsignGarak](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EnsignGarak)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/56 "2018-02-27T13:41:11Z")
Maybe Iā€™m missing something, but I found my first matches in Raid to be incredibly boring. Enemies with virtually no Health/Armor points, and very little in rewardsā€¦ Add to that the fact that ā€œprogressā€ toward earning Seals/Trophies is not being made with Raid battles, so the time that I spend in Raid is not doing anything toward fulfilling my basic weekly responsibilities to my Guildā€¦ I just donā€™t get it. -EG ---
**Author:** ![JonathanStriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathanstriker/32/33065_2.png) [@JonathanStriker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JonathanStriker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/57 "2018-02-27T13:54:02Z")
> [@raphael](#): > > Vote with your wallet and donā€™t spend any gems for tier 3 and above. While I did like your comment and _mostly_ agree with it, I did buy Tier 3. I thought the weapon was nifty and I could ā€œjustifyā€ a weapon for that price. Tier 4 and up though? No way Iā€™m buying those, unless gems start raining from the sky, like in the old days. ---
**Author:** ![shadyady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@shadyady](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/shadyady)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/58 "2018-02-27T14:02:21Z")
That basically sums up my opinion too in 2 sentences. Putting the cost/reward issue aside, if it was fun then I might be inclined to invest some of my hard earned gems. Itā€™s just play the same boss over, and over, and over again, no thanks. At least in PVP it may be repetitive but at least there is a variation in tactics depending on your opposition, and you can switch up you own team for a change. Raid boss is just constant rinse and repeat. ---
**Author:** ![JonathanStriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathanstriker/32/33065_2.png) [@JonathanStriker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JonathanStriker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/59 "2018-02-27T14:08:00Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > For those of you who are complaining that this mode is P2Wā€¦, while I canā€™t disagree exactly, RELAX! What exactly are they ā€œwinningā€? The pay IN for reward OUT is sooo out of balance that if somebody is foolish enough to blow gems on it, go for it, or if they are so wealthy that they can buy gems to that extentā€¦ please PM, cause I have student loans and medical bills and I can help you put that money to REALLY good use. Just be grateful that modes like GW where there IS a big payout in GEMS is NOT P2W in the slightest. And for that matter any of the FREE modes of gem generation are neither gated, ā€œenergy mechanicedā€, or P2W exclusive. So, chillā€¦ šŸ•¶ While you make a great point, it made me think of something: the newbies. The people that came into this game when Raid Bosses started and no nothing of things like GW. Honestly, if I came into this game, and the first thing I saw was this Pay to Win set up on Raids, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth about the whole game. I probably would think ā€œWell, if raids are like this, Guild Wars, Invasions, and other game modes probably are too. Iā€™m out.ā€ Maybe thatā€™s just me, my thought process, but I still think it is a valid point. ---
**Author:** ![HootyMcOwlFace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hootymcowlface/32/34644_2.png) [@HootyMcOwlFace](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HootyMcOwlFace)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/60 "2018-02-27T14:12:42Z")
Thatā€™s true, and youā€™re correct - itā€™s the idea that choosing not to buy these extra tiers now sets you behind. It doesnā€™t feel as fair or as balanced as GW in terms of investing resources based on your level and amount of disposable income as a guild/player. This feels a little more like everyone has been lumped in together, and the player-base will automatically stratify based on level and resources before the week even starts. Tacet also made a good point in his video recently - if the spawn rate of the raven is truely random, then there is a huge rng component when it comes to numbers of battles that are available to players. Granted, you can also argue that GW has/had a large slice of rng, so perhaps this is a moot point. ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372/61 "2018-02-27T14:39:41Z")
> [@JonathanStriker](#): > > Maybe thatā€™s just me, my thought process, but I still think it is a valid point. Very true! And as I warned the devs aboveā€¦ Be careful devs! You may have unintentionally gone too farā€¦ šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ill-be-probably-in-the-minority-but-im-not-a-fan-of-the-raid-stuff/36372.md?page=4)