# If you want us to sink our gems(š°) into your events
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [March 5, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655 "2019-03-05T19:49:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/1 "2019-03-05T19:49:56Z")
ā¦ Then stop unbanning the players you ban for cheating in them. You end up just cheating the legitimate player base out of gems and rewards. That is all.
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### Author:  [@crazylady](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/crazylady)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/2 "2019-03-06T03:20:29Z")
Wow, we actually agree on this point Ryan!! Iām kinda shocked that a player could catch a ban for blatant cheating and then be back in 2 days. š¤
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### Author:  [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/3 "2019-03-06T09:16:38Z")
Completely agreedā¦ Itās very disappointing to see such permissiveness with cheaters ā¹
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### Author:  [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/4 "2019-03-06T12:15:15Z")
> [@crazylady](#):
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> Iām kinda shocked that a player could catch a ban for blatant cheating and then be back in 2 days.
I wonder what VIP level the person isā¦
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### Author:  [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/5 "2019-03-06T12:42:12Z")
I agree with this. Have one rule for everyone, regardless of VIP level. If you get one unban, then everyone should get it. Thatās only fair.
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/6 "2019-03-06T13:20:24Z")
I hear this every week. A fresh player with a few weeks of gameplay is already at level 1800+.
BAN people for CHEATING indefinitely! NO PARDONS!
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/7 "2019-03-06T13:40:10Z")
They probably found an exploit and are VIP 99, too.
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### Author:  [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/8 "2019-03-06T13:42:20Z")
Iād like to think that VIP level doesnāt play into whether a ban is overturned, but I am really curious sometimes.
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### Author:  [@YICARLIYA](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/YICARLIYA)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/9 "2019-03-06T13:43:34Z")
Completely agreed. Itās very disappointing to see such permissiveness with cheaters
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/10 "2019-03-06T17:02:02Z")
Iām curious what happened to the guild that player was in, they supposedly got docked for 35k trophies. Did they also get their trophies back now that the player has been unbanned?
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/11 "2019-03-06T17:23:25Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> Iām curious what happened to the guild that player was in, they supposedly got docked for 35k trophies. Did they also get their trophies back now that the player has been unbanned?
As of yesterday, they did not receive their trophies back.
The devs punished the player and the guild for cheating. And now appear to be giving him a second, or a third, or a fourth chance?
Why?
Because evidently itās better to have players who cheat and spend money. Than to have players who donāt cheat and donāt spend money. š¤·
Preferably, Iām sure they would like playerās who donāt cheat and pay money.
But like a girl (or guy) with one tooth and one legā¦ Theyāll take what they can get.
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### Author:  [@Makkon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Makkon)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/12 "2019-03-06T17:52:06Z")
Permissiveness for cheating from developers has prompted me to cease playing numerous games in the past. I always felt GOW developers have been very good at squashing such behavior but leniency for this type of conduct should not exist. Blatantly disregarding game rules should lead to significant punishment not a slap on the wrist. No player is valuable enough to allow cheating. Otherwise it becomes a cancer that erodes player confidence. That is the kiss of death for any game.
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### Author:  [@Nonsheep](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nonsheep)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/13 "2019-03-06T18:45:26Z")
Ok, what type of cheating has been going on? I am curious to put this in perspective. If you all donāt mindā¦
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### Author:  [@Demigod](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Demigod)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/14 "2019-03-06T19:24:21Z")
I know how the devs can gem sink us.
Make a guaranteed power orb on the events.
5000 gems. one guaranteed power orb. Change the leaderboard. And you have youāre gems sinks like crazy.
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### Author:  [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/15 "2019-03-06T23:21:28Z")
I remember 10 minutes ago when I thought cheating got you banned for life.
I miss ten minutes ago.
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### Author:  [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/16 "2019-03-07T02:03:26Z")
> [@Avathar](#):
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> Completely agreedā¦ Itās very disappointing to see such permissiveness with cheaters
> [@YICARLIYA](#):
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> Completely agreed. Itās very disappointing to see such permissiveness with cheaters
What? š
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### Author:  [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/17 "2019-03-07T03:07:47Z")
This is really disheartening to hear ā¹ Would at least like a explanation, or a comment from them
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/18 "2019-03-07T12:10:27Z")
There should be absolutely no tolerance towards cheating/hacking/exploiting in the Gems of War.
No second chances or pardons. If you cheated once, no matter how severe, you should get BANNED permanently and LOSE the ACCESS to the account permanently!
I wonder what @Cyrup and @Kafka have to say about this.
Giving a second chance to cheating players is absolutely not acceptable as it will encourage such brazen behaviour in the future. In short, it will get worse instead of better.
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/19 "2019-03-07T12:15:27Z")
Donāt forget that it appears that cheating can also be observed in the PvP Ranked/Casual battles.
I saw a player who had an attack power over 100 for his Hero in the PvP (Ranking) screen.
Thatās clearly not possible, and a result of some sort of manipulation/hacking.
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### Author:  [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-you-want-us-to-sink-our-gems-into-your-events/52655/20 "2019-03-07T17:03:45Z")
> [@Arelana](#):
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> I wonder what VIP level the person isā¦
You know, previously I foolishly believed devs that VIP level does not protect cheaters from the ban.
But recently I have reported one cheaterā¦ The usual cheater with 2500 faction renown in Hall of Guardians, All-Seeing Eye, Primal Rift and Crypt Keepers and maximum hoard level of 101. I have reported almost 10 of that kind of cheaters previously and they were banned. To my much surprise, cheater from my last report was not banned. I found his forum account today - and he long ago bragged about VIP level 20.
Devs can say anything to protect their public image but I no longer believe that VIP level doesnāt protect from the ban.
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