# If there are 13 or more gems on the **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [August 26, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347 "2017-08-26T16:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/1 "2017-08-26T16:52:01Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/b/7bfff77406170ae86b05a152bdfecdccd7de7eca.jpg) Like this Troglodyte brudda. We see many troops that requires 13 or more of a mana gem color to do something extra. Is the number 13 a little cheeky and much to ask for generally? ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/2 "2017-08-26T16:53:26Z")
No, it’s not. It is neither too easy nor too hard. In short, Goldilocks, it’s just right. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/3 "2017-08-26T16:54:52Z")
I do be fine with 11-12. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/4 "2017-08-26T16:55:00Z")
It’s the new devils number. 🤘🏻 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/5 "2017-08-26T16:55:26Z")
5/10 times there is 12 of the gem I need. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/6 "2017-08-26T16:59:37Z")
Yep, that’s why it’s 13, otherwise might as well hard code the double damage. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/7 "2017-08-26T17:00:08Z")
Its a little cheeky on a few troops, but I will survive. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/8 "2017-08-26T17:12:16Z")
Which ones do you feel it is not needed? Wait, I may see them appear in the other thread? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/9 "2017-08-26T17:16:09Z")
Mab. 🙂 But 12 gems instead of 13 would still not have burned my fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/10 "2017-08-26T17:20:15Z")
“Fun” fact: In the game data files, the condition that checks for 13 gems of a given color (for instance, Blue) is still called “AddFor10BlueGems.” It makes my eye twitch when i see it. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/11 "2017-08-26T17:21:14Z")
Mab teams was so fun to use back then when 10 was needed… 😌 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/12 "2017-08-26T17:21:58Z")
Back then, Mana Shield didn’t exist yet on anything that mattered, and Impervious didn’t stop Mana Burn. Ah, memories. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/13 "2017-08-26T17:22:46Z")
Lets keep these memories alive. 🙂 Still they dont beat the True shot troops/teams…golden days! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/14 "2017-08-26T17:25:40Z")
Mab, Mab, Valkyrie, Mercy was a powerhouse team that was coincidentally all pretty women. And before that, there was Mawrcy. Remember when you were on pins and needles from the word “go” because Hunger meant one Skull match would wreck your tank? And yes, True Shot meta, probably the worst of them all. Man, the current gripes seem tame when you take the long view… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/15 "2017-08-26T17:30:03Z")
I think it was a mistake to be make traits that makes troops imune to manaburn. Manaburn had such a potential, and I hoped to see many more troops/weapons with a manaburn skill, sadly those stupid traits destroyed my wishes. Mawrcy is still fun to use, but before it was extremely fun. 😛 It was hurtful to get it against tho. I want what is fast to use, I have found a few builds that takes 1-2 min in average. I am happy with that. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/16 "2017-08-26T17:30:18Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > And yes, True Shot meta, probably the worst of them all. The Webspinner / Venoxia was not bad either. The best thing was to go do something else while the team of the opponent was looping and looping and killing you so slowly… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/17 "2017-08-26T17:34:01Z")
Imagine a troop with both manaburn and drain mana in same skill, possible a new Legendary/Mythic. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/18 "2017-08-26T20:01:52Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Imagine a troop with both manaburn and drain mana in same skill [Done!](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6072) Or did you mean [this?](https://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6199) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/19 "2017-08-26T20:05:41Z")
haha, well, I must admit I am a little drunk today. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347/20 "2017-08-26T20:23:40Z")
13 is a fine unless we’re talking about kruarg the red. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/if-there-are-13-or-more-gems-on-the/29347.md?page=2)