# Ideas to help the devs make money!

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [November 27, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837 "2016-11-27T02:23:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 9:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/21 "2016-11-27T09:14:41Z")

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Alternative visual for troops 🙂 .

> [@Alternative visual for troops](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/alternative-visual-for-troops/15085):
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> We have some nice tunings of the Hero so why not some love for the troops? Idea of alternative visual is maybe common in other F2P cardgame (not an expert). But for sure, Path of Exile (hack’n’slash F2P) has some alternative visuals for spell (you need to buy with $) which are pretty cool. And it’s this kind of products that I want to buy on GoW and maybe I’m not the only one. So why not new visuals of our prefered troops? We can buy them with dollars to make some incomes and we can imagine so…

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**Author:** ![Fifthelement](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fifthelement/32/8383_2.png) [@Fifthelement](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fifthelement)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/22 "2016-11-27T11:18:00Z")

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“Pay 5$ to have any Manticore teams filtered out of your pvp target suggestions” \<— though with this feature they’d get rich so fast, they’d just abandon GoW and move to some nice place.

> [@Mithran](#):
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> Premium memberships, pay by month (or two weeks), with resource multipliers on everything (gems, glory, gold, souls, traitstones, seals) from every in-game source aside from key openings (battles, tributes, treasure hunt rewards, guild tasks). A smaller boost, like 25%, and multiplicative over the other boosts, not additive, reasonably priced at 10 to 20 dollars a month and I’m in.

Why bother? Just make all-resources-packs available for $$. Same result, cutting unnecessary steps in the middle.  
VIP is a variation of your idea already, but as far as I know it boosts only gold/souls, rather than everything?

I still believe Mythics should be sold in the $ packs 1,5-2 months after they get released. People who pay for them get them late enough to not call it game-breaking by those who spent keys/gems/whatever to get them right after the release, but it’d allow those with bad RNG (or those with OCD to have _everything_) to get them too, if they’re willing to pay.

> [@UKresistance](#):
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> Yes we get the manticore joke but it’s neither appropriate or funny.

Yeah ignore the actual topic-related suggestion and complain about the first line of the post. /clap  
also “not appropriate” … your joke did make me laugh, thanks.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/23 "2016-11-27T11:55:17Z")

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Yes we get the manticore joke but it’s neither appropriate or funny.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/24 "2016-11-27T11:59:23Z")

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I like alternative visuals, though Sirrian wasn’t happy with the low selling bunny ears and dwarf. it was mostly end game players spending to tip the team.  
I think though it’s worth another look.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/25 "2016-11-27T12:38:14Z")

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> [@UKresistance](#):
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> I like alternative visuals, though Sirrian wasn’t happy with the low selling bunny ears and dwarf.

These packs seems to be uncompleted because you have only one sex for each of them. And so, maybe players don’t want to pay for an uncompleted pack…  
Moreover, all the tunings of the Hero concern the… Hero only. So if you don’t use him/her, it’s meaningless.

When I talked about alternative visuals, it’s more about a new picture for one specific troop. Not only some tuning that you apply on the base picture. For example, “Unshaved Apothecary”, “Christmas Queen Mab”, and so on 🙂 .

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**Author:** ![Freakynation76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/freakynation76/32/2936_2.png) [@Freakynation76](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Freakynation76)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/26 "2016-11-27T15:16:45Z")

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Cut the prices in half…seriously. $50 for one legendary and resources are a joke, all of them are higher than most people want to pay. The $4.99 packs are the best value. Make trait stones available all the time or rotate by color everyday. I think people would splurge on the instant gratification. Don’t throw 20 extra things people aren’t looking for just to make it a “better” deal. Example: I need red minors, not minors of every color. $5 for 30 red minors would probable have me dropping the $ to get what I need.

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/27 "2016-11-27T15:41:28Z")

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> [@Freakynation76](#):
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> Don’t throw 20 extra things people aren’t looking for just to make it a “better” deal. Example: I need red minors, not minors of every color. $5 for 30 red minors would probable have me dropping the $ to get what I need.

QFT

I’d easily splurge on a few 5$ traitstone packs a week if they were targeted. I’d especially pay for any runic, any arcane and red minors. I absolutely despise grinding in explore mode. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the stones I need for kingdom leveling if the price was right.

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**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/28 "2016-11-27T15:47:34Z")

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> [@Freakynation76](#):
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> The $4.99 packs are the best value. Make trait stones available all the time or rotate by color everyday. I think people would splurge on the instant gratification. Don’t throw 20 extra things people aren’t looking for just to make it a “better” deal. Example: I need red minors, not minors of every color. $5 for 30 red minors would probable have me dropping the $ to get what I need.

Monday - 30 Red  
Tuesday - 30 Green  
Wednesday - 30 Yellow  
Thursday - 30 Brown  
Friday - 30 Purple  
Saturday - 30 Blue  
Sunday - 6 of each

Tada!

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/29 "2016-11-27T16:47:55Z")

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> [@Rasper](#):
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> Monday - 30 Red  
> Tuesday - 30 Green  
> Wednesday - 30 Yellow  
> Thursday - 30 Brown  
> Friday - 30 Purple  
> Saturday - 30 Blue  
> Sunday - 6 of each
> 
> Tada!

This seems a sensible idea, wonder what the devs make of it… May be some technical problem with the shop content cycling every day, mind…

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**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/30 "2016-11-27T17:13:42Z")

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Not sure if it would be too much to ask, but i’d throw a random Arcane of any combination of these colors.  
Example:  
Monday = 30 Red and one random Arcane. (Blood, Beast…)  
And one Celestial Traitstone on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/31 "2016-11-27T19:34:59Z")

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I was wondering where you saw that?

I kind of figured the Awatar packs would be a slow sell, but I figured the bunny ears would sell quite well over a couple months, and I just don’t think the Dwarf will sell.

The only thing I thought that might make the Avatar packs jump out for lower level players is to include a whole batch of fix cards of the same race. We only have the Dwarf troops, but if for the $10, you got 1 of every dwarf in the game, it might get new players excited, along with some Dwarf Flavored Traitstones.

Treat the Avatar packs like those special beginner sale packs. Make them really good deals for players of all levels.

> [@UKresistance](#):
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> I like alternative visuals, though Sirrian wasn’t happy with the low selling bunny ears and dwarf. …

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/32 "2016-11-27T19:54:32Z")

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I have no idea how much it costs to commission art for a game, but what about combining some of these idea together?

**Subscription + Alternative Art**

So for $(10-20?) You could buy an alternative art pack for an entire Kingdom. They could even run a “special” discount when that Kingdom is first released or when it is the weekly Kingdom event. Because it is a “Subscription” you would receive the alt artwork as new troop are released for that particular Kingdom as appropriate.

Important points:

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  - No power creep (Not PtW)

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  - Makes slightly harder to identify troops at a glance (unless art only show for purchaser)

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**Author:** ![Freakynation76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/freakynation76/32/2936_2.png) [@Freakynation76](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Freakynation76)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/33 "2016-11-27T20:16:55Z")

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I like it…I would think the developers would be trying to create more micro transactions. That’s how a lot of these types of games make $. I just think they put a higher value on the items than they are worth. Will they sell, yes. Would they sell more at a lower price point…I would think yes. Being in a high end guild and having access to VIP, I just don’t see anyone shelling out $100 for the gems to get enough gems for 50 VIP chests and not having guaranteed success to get what they want.

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/34 "2016-11-27T20:42:40Z")

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> [@Jainus](#):
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> > [@Rasper](#):
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> > Monday - 30 Red  
> > Tuesday - 30 Green  
> > Wednesday - 30 Yellow  
> > Thursday - 30 Brown  
> > Friday - 30 Purple  
> > Saturday - 30 Blue  
> > Sunday - 6 of each
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> > Tada!
> 
> This seems a sensible idea, wonder what the devs make of it… May be some technical problem with the shop content cycling every day, mind…

Ok, just some thing to consider:

Always having one color only available on one particular day per week limits availability of a few players who work/travel consistently.

If the Developers are “locked in” to the weekly schedule for some reason. They could just offer **two** “random” packs per week. Like when you rank up a level. In addition they could start this “Soon” as it follows there Store page offer model already in place.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/35 "2016-11-27T21:32:17Z")

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Sirrian mentioned art pack sales as disapointing once, but they may revisit it. Sales were mostly to end game players, and the art was more difficult than we thought so as to fit armor choices. Art packs also included bonus items.

Personally dwarf or bunny ears doesn’t appeal to me.

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**Author:** ![Yyurgas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yyurgas/32/15019_2.png) [@Yyurgas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Yyurgas)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 10:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/36 "2016-11-28T10:07:11Z")

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> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> 1 vip key x15 days 6$

That’s something I would buy.  
Everything in the shop is overpriced imo. I’ve spent a lot of money on this game, but never felt having a good deal. Even the dragon amour, best deal in shop, is too expensive[quote=“Freakynation76, post:26, topic:15837”]  
Example: I need red minors, not minors of every color. $5 for 30 red minors would probable have me dropping the $ to get what I need.  
[/quote]  
I would buy 50 for 5$, nice idea 🙂

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**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/37 "2016-11-28T12:20:47Z")

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Sure it’s been mentioned before but I would spend money on specific Arcanes. Explore can be a mind numbing grind and I would be thrilled to spend $1 per Arcane to skip that process! Same with Runics.

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**Author:** ![LYNDALE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyndale/32/13864_2.png) [@LYNDALE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LYNDALE)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/38 "2016-12-03T04:39:21Z")

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A tldr rant.  
For me the release of new troops every week just makes me feel like I’m getting farther and farther behind on traiting. You end up with so many troops to trait you never catch up.  
Explore does Not relieve the back up. I spent hours a day grinding with not one arcane. Meanwhile there’s guild obligations which explore does not thing for.  
Let me buy an arcane pack! Grinding gets old. You can get so focused on NOT being p2w you end up with unending grind. There has to points where a player starts to catch up and there isn’t.  
Stopping the avatar packs at bunny ears and dwarves? How long did it take death knight to pay for itself or the game as a whole? Instant profits aren’t going to happen. It’s like going into the store and seeing 2 shirts. I see a lot of bunnie ears and dwarf packs in play.  
Offer small things for a less then 10 that can be slipped into a budget.  
Some smartasses are mocking because we ask for traitstone trading. Screw them. A player quits because of too much unrewarded grind, that effects the game economy as well. Grinding for glory to get the arcane /troop packs. Grinding for traitstones, trophies, etc. A player wants to feel like they’re getting somewhere.  
Diamond packs, no. Over $200 to open 50 vip chests. Not on my budget. The sale? 10 diamonds more for $9.96. No  
2 guild keys? I’m not exactly peeing myself in excitement.  
Pc and mobile needs the weapons packs like the others. Buy? Heck yeah!  
I want to spend on this game. I like the devs but give me something of value I need or love like the avatar packs.  
Rant over

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/39 "2016-12-03T11:31:28Z")

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> [@LYNDALE](#):
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> Let me buy an arcane pack!

They sell Arcane Packs. $34.99, not in the shop every week.

I do agree that the number of Arcanes to trait some troops, vs how low the drop rate is, gets annoying. I just grind glory and try to stock up on stones when I can.

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**Author:** ![LYNDALE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyndale/32/13864_2.png) [@LYNDALE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LYNDALE)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ideas-to-help-the-devs-make-money/15837/40 "2016-12-03T12:48:40Z")

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I have seen minor, major, and runic but never arcane on mobile. $35? \*Gulp \* a couple of dollars, maybe $5 I can squeeze in weekly. Many complain about micro transactions but it allows those of us on fixed incomes to buy a few useful or fun items. I saved up for the death knight armor over a couple of months.  
With so many players coming and going it’s not going to break the economy of the game.

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