# Idea to change the Skeleton Key weapon **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [March 11, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932 "2020-03-11T20:17:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sossitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sossitch/32/60933_2.png) [@Sossitch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sossitch)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/1 "2020-03-11T20:17:35Z")
It doesn’t really make sense that skeleton key can give an extra turn. Let’s remove that feature so its more in line with the corsair class weapon, plunder and peril. ![plunder](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/d/ad31e1382a52b3b1ae66d9301fbff167de1f104d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/2 "2020-03-11T20:27:49Z")
> [@Make Titan more in line with Corsair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-titan-more-in-line-with-corsair/61899/7): > > Please don’t make a post that they can later point to and say “SEE? People wanted this.” Sarcasm is a dangerous weapon when used against some…who might misread or twist it… ---
**Author:** ![ChunkyMono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chunkymono/32/69308_2.png) [@ChunkyMono](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ChunkyMono)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/3 "2020-03-11T21:28:45Z")
No, no, it wasn’t the 2 people asking for a change on the official forum page. It was the hundreds (thousands? I’m not sure, but it was “a lot”. Allegedly) of people asking for changes across their other social media accounts and Live Streams. Sarcasm here is ok. I think. ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/4 "2020-03-11T21:35:57Z")
I’ve requested links to those sources or screen grabs so we can see the extensive catalogue of sunspear 3rd trait complaints for ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![AvengedAgainst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avengedagainst/32/46671_2.png) [@AvengedAgainst](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AvengedAgainst)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/5 "2020-03-11T21:37:24Z")
I lol’d at this ---
**Author:** ![Gibbem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gibbem/32/36957_2.png) [@Gibbem](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gibbem)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/6 "2020-03-11T22:59:02Z")
This, very much this! Only difference we need are colors that’s it, it is complicated as it is! What if I take the wrong one and can’t find my way into changing it!! ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/7 "2020-03-11T23:13:59Z")
This is a terrible idea. ---
**Author:** ![Poisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/poisy/32/52387_2.png) [@Poisy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Poisy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/8 "2020-03-11T23:21:33Z")
I’m speechless again. Let’s ruin every single great weapon out there, and why not? Just to bring it in line with some class jeez. Enough already. How many of you does still use Dragon’s Eye? What? Never heard of such a weapon? Exactly! Terrible, terrible idea that will be used by devs to claim that MANY many wanted it. ---
**Author:** ![bobbydvt247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bobbydvt247](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bobbydvt247)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/9 "2020-03-12T00:03:15Z")
Lol least skeleton key team isn’t class dependent like the phoenicia team. Seriously, I get you and everyone else are upset, but move on, there are teams just as good for climbing the board if that’s what you are after. I think the life and death/secrets of the crypt comparison would also work here. #noonecaresyournumber1 ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/10 "2020-03-12T00:06:34Z")
I support this. The #1 reason I’ve been told weapons like L&D don’t need a nerf is I’m a loser who wants the game to be too easy. Clearly Skeleton Key makes it _way_ too easy for a person with meager resources to win games. This nerf would hurt losers like me, so I expect a lot of people to stand behind it. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/11 "2020-03-12T01:08:50Z")
> [@RiverSong](#): > > This is a terrible idea. So you mean it’s very likely to be implemented by the devs? ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/12 "2020-03-12T05:32:46Z")
No. Unlike some here, I don’t have any antipathy towards the devs. ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/13 "2020-10-01T04:00:37Z")
Milord, this idea is terrible. ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/14 "2020-10-01T04:32:39Z")
All weapons are not created equal, and they don’t necessarily need to be. ---
**Author:** ![junette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/junette/32/43709_2.png) [@junette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/junette)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/15 "2020-10-01T22:18:51Z")
These kind of posts make wish for a thumbs down next to that heart button . I’d smash the thumbs down on this one . 👎 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/16 "2020-10-01T22:46:23Z")
I believe this was just a (bad) sarcasm thread (without the context inside) that got necroed. Easier to just let this topic die. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/17 "2020-10-01T23:55:13Z")
Context: The original post was made right after the change of Sunspear’s third trait from Firestorm at start of turn to +2 Mana when making red gem matches, with the basic line of logic being conveyed as to _why_ it was changed being “x overlaps with what y does, so we changed x to be more in line with z instead” (even though, as was conveyed, there was no issue to this and said change would have been a massive nerf). This change was extremely poorly received and was repealed not too long after. From the patch notes thread: > [@4.8 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-8-update-patch-notes/61870/1): > > Because the Sunspear has access to the Fire Talent Tree, it’s Legendary Trait is the conflicts with the level 20 Fire Talent - Firestarter. We’ve given it a new Legendary Trait that keeps to what we intended. > > - Legendary Trait changed to Gain 2 bonus Red Mana when matching Red Gems. > - _This is similar to the Corsair’s High Seas Legendary Trait._ > [@4.8 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-8-update-patch-notes/61870/95): > > Just officially stating here that the wrong Trait wasn’t changed. The Trait and Talent clashed, the Trait was brought more in line with how the designers wanted things as per the Trait on the Corsair Class, killing 2 birds with one unpopular stone. All replies in this thread _for_ this weapon being changed “to bring it more in line with x” are of a clearly sarcastic tone. There were a few such threads around the forum at this time. The problem is, the sarcasm landed poorly _even at the time_ (as can be seen from the _initial_ replies in this thread) and seven months after the fact this kind of sarcasm isn’t readily apparent anymore for anyone without a good memory that was around for this happening, so I’m bringing this up for clarity. Once again, _nobody_ in this thread is legitimately on the “for” side of a Skeleton Key change, and everybody “against” a change legitimately are against a change and are posting here either because the initial sarcasm didn’t land or they were afraid it _would_ be taken seriously. Thank you. tl;dr: This post is a 7 month old sarcastic joke, no need to keep feeding it. ---
**Author:** ![ChunkyMono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chunkymono/32/69308_2.png) [@ChunkyMono](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ChunkyMono)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/18 "2020-10-02T02:26:32Z")
Maybe if we all start insulting each other we can get it locked. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/19 "2020-10-02T03:08:19Z")
sure. Chunky, you’re an Orc! ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932/20 "2020-10-02T03:54:42Z")
And you’re a thief, Idle! 👊 [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/idea-to-change-the-skeleton-key-weapon/61932.md?page=2)