# I would like to thank the developers for ruining the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 2, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632 "2017-09-02T13:30:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/42 "2017-09-04T01:32:04Z")
It’s not that skull baiting is no longer effective. It is the terrible Cascades in favor of the ai that has so many people upset. If you haven’t noticed it, you are either very lucky to not have encountered it, or just haven’t played the game that much. ---
**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/43 "2017-09-04T01:32:37Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > @GREEK-13 is is never our intention to try and push Gems of War to being a game that is pay to win. Would it be possible to let us know what the intention was with 4x then, since I’m not seeing it’s purpose. I assumed it was added to give us the OPTION to play games faster, either so we could play more games in the same amount of time or to simply play the same amount of games in less time. But with the nerf to the rewards, it now makes playing at 4x REQUIRED in order to hopefully receive rewards similar to before for the amount of play. So I’m really confused as to what the benefit of 4x is, or the reasoning for this “feature”? ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/44 "2017-09-04T01:33:02Z")
@MadOrange we are going to be looking into all the major points brought up on the forums over the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![MadOrange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/madorange/32/23351_2.png) [@MadOrange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MadOrange)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/45 "2017-09-04T01:36:37Z")
@Saltypatra you know, reading your reply has put an end to my constant moaning. Thank you very much. 💎 Your a Gem… ---
**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/46 "2017-09-04T01:38:21Z")
This is great to hear. Thanks for listening to our feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/47 "2017-09-04T01:41:14Z")
I told you guys she rock!!! ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/48 "2017-09-04T01:42:21Z")
Oh shucks you guys will all make me blush. I have a crazy big document up in the background that I’m periodically adding too. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/49 "2017-09-04T01:42:24Z")
I’ve played enough to level the forge past level 7. Only had three or so more losses than I normally would have, 130 wins 8 losses in pvp. So no material difference seen. Other than the 4+ surge. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/50 "2017-09-04T01:44:28Z")
Consider yourself lucky then. I’ve noticed a big difference. And, judging from the forum the past couple of days, I’d say I’m not alone. ---
**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/51 "2017-09-04T01:46:20Z")
The fact that you are responding to our inquiries right now speaks so highly. The silence is what brought out all the constructive criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/52 "2017-09-04T01:50:32Z")
I doubt I’m lucky. So you’re losing, what, 80% of the time now? I think it’s the surge on 4+ that creates the illusion of mega cascades as troops fill much more quickly. which makes the looping defence teams better. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/53 "2017-09-04T01:54:12Z")
I think I can recognize the difference between a Mana surge and a Cascade that sets up subsequent Cascades. But, sure, if you say it’s an “illusion”, that must explain it. It’s just my recall bias kicking in. ---
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/54 "2017-09-04T01:59:00Z")
My win rate pre 3.1 was a pretty static 97-99% now it’s running closer to 90% regardless of team structure. Not enough its game breaking or I’m even complaining really. Just observations given the 4match surges everything charges quicker. Famine is king again. ---
**Author:** ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/55 "2017-09-04T02:03:17Z")
I’ve had similar stats. What really bothers me most is losing nearly a third of my guild wars matches though. ---
**Author:** ![Crow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/crow/32/44074_2.png) [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 6:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/56 "2017-09-04T06:15:27Z")
If you dont loop, you dont win. This is the current state because ai will crush you on 2 or 3 turns. Im talking about Mab, forest troll and x3 krakens, Maw, wisps. ---
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/57 "2017-09-04T07:49:13Z")
I made a video long ago. I made one move and was destroyed. Over 180 views. ---
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/58 "2017-09-04T07:54:45Z")
Wait a minute. They took gems from the legendary tasks. If that’s the case, I quit this game. I run Gem Assassins. I will pass that torch. That is the straw for me. A lot of us are staying just you see if the update will bring excitement back to the game. If they really removed Gems to be #Petty I as freaking done as will many others be as well. Time to break the news to my guild mates. #TRAGIC #EPICFAIL ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/59 "2017-09-04T07:57:29Z")
Yeah but we don’t know if it was a bug or intended ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/60 "2017-09-04T07:59:40Z")
And still no official answer. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Unforgiven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/the_unforgiven/32/24199_2.png) [@The\_Unforgiven](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/The_Unforgiven)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632/61 "2017-09-04T08:07:48Z")
It would be nice to know what the devs are trying to achieve with the AI. All of the changes to it since the beginning of the year have been complete nonsense. Do they even know what they want? The gameplay is just like a slot machine now. Just go back to the AI from a year ago instead of digging a bigger and bigger hole. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-would-like-to-thank-the-developers-for-ruining-the-game/29632.md?page=4)