# I think explore is a rip off

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [September 8, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105 "2016-09-08T17:25:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/41 "2016-09-23T01:03:59Z")

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so much better than challenges!

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/42 "2016-09-23T06:53:51Z")

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Did anyone notice the buff to explore? I just want you to know it was a passive buff and not an active buff.

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/43 "2016-09-26T15:46:36Z")

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> [@killerman3333](#):
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> Did anyone notice the buff to explore? I just want you to know it was a passive buff and not an active buff

I’m not sure what that means. Can you explain a bit?

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**Author:** ![Thrimdrang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@Thrimdrang](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thrimdrang)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/44 "2016-09-26T16:10:18Z")

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Hi, newb question:

Are the drop rates different at different difficulties? I’m going on Warlord III to get more souls, but it makes fights take longer (and also sometimes I die). If I’m farming for stones, I might drop the difficulty down, but I thought the drop rate was better on higher levels.

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**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/45 "2016-09-26T16:18:17Z")

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> [@PC/Steam: New Version (mini update) 2.0.106](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-steam-new-version-mini-update-2-0-106/9619/9):
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> No - traitstone droprate was once affected by difficulty (pre 1.0.9 I think, where it was 70% + 5% per difficulty level), but we bumped it up to 100% on all difficulty levels a while back. The quality of the traitstone has never been affected by difficulty.

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/46 "2016-09-26T17:18:23Z")

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> [@Thrimdrang](#):
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> I’m going on Warlord III to get more souls, but it makes fights take longer (and also sometimes I die)

If you are dying, then you have it waaaaaay to hard. Set it so you finish a fight in under 2 minutes, ideally. Anything more than that you are decreasing your efficiency.

As an example, if it takes you 2x longer to finish a fight but you get 10% extra souls, what’s the advantage to getting 2 easier fights done where you’ll end up with +180% the souls in the same time?

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**Author:** ![Thrimdrang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@Thrimdrang](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thrimdrang)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/47 "2016-09-26T19:40:12Z")

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Yeah, I have it set to Warlord III, which is the highest I can set it right now. I’m not done with all the challenges yet, and I really like getting the double-soul reward for completing them at higher difficulties.

I REALLY wish you could redo challenges and get the soul reward each time. Not looking forward to figuring out how to get souls quickly-ish once I’m done with them.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/48 "2016-09-26T19:46:36Z")

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> [@Thrimdrang](#):
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> Not looking forward to figuring out how to get souls quickly-ish once I’m done with them.

Valkyrie.

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/49 "2016-09-26T20:54:07Z")

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Valkyrie + Explore

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/50 "2016-09-26T21:07:59Z")

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A passive buff is when the devs buff something else, and it leads to also buffing something unintentionally. An active buff is when the devs directly buff something.  
An example of a passive buff is increasing the stats of your team through guild guardians. They make the guild guardians (active buff) then the guild guardians’ effects effectively buff the rest of the troops (passive buff). It is hard to find all the passive buffs and i doubt the devs keep track of all the passive/active buffs they do to the game but some effect minigames.

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**Author:** ![Saintmara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saintmara/32/11753_2.png) [@Saintmara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saintmara)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/51 "2016-10-01T07:11:55Z")

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I agree totally. Last week I played many hours on explore and did not get one arcane! At least I got some souls out of it!

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/52 "2016-10-03T16:37:02Z")

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You have some seriously bad luck there but you should stick with it.

I’ve had stretches of over 200 matches without a single arcane. And then I’ve had stretches were I get 4 or 5 in 15 minutes.

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/53 "2016-10-04T03:06:22Z")

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i seriously wanted the arcanes and what did i get in 3 matches? 2 celestials and 1 runic.

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**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/54 "2016-10-04T06:53:56Z")

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Last night about 29 explores. Definitely two, but I think three celestials. And at least one arcane. Still happy with that.

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**Author:** ![TheMadHatter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/themadhatter/32/11690_2.png) [@TheMadHatter](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheMadHatter)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/55 "2016-10-04T08:14:52Z")

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I quite enjoy explore. It’s great for seals and souls. Everything else is just a bonus.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 8:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/56 "2016-10-04T08:39:52Z")

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That sounds great. I need celestials and arcanes

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/57 "2016-10-05T21:55:06Z")

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I started yesterday needing 12 arcanes to finish a new team I’m working on. I fully expected to be doing Explores on and off for at least a few days, if not longer, so I let my guild master know my contributions were going to be down a little this week.

Wouldn’t you know it that I got ALL TWELVE in 5 hours yesterday.

Explore is ABSOLUTELY worth every minute.

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**Author:** ![Assiduous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/assiduous/32/3931_2.png) [@Assiduous](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Assiduous)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/58 "2016-10-05T21:59:10Z")

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On the other hand I needed two arcanes and it took me 2-2.5 hours. I did get several much needed red runics though. And a Celestial(I suppose some day I will need them).

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/59 "2016-10-05T22:00:11Z")

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Yeah, about a month ago, I had a stretch of like 5 days without an arcane. It was over 200 matches. You just have to stick it out.

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**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-think-explore-is-a-rip-off/12105/60 "2016-10-07T20:44:24Z")

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I would just prefer a metered system.  
After 10 explores you get a major  
After 25 explores a runic.  
After 50 an arcane.  
After 100 a celestial.

All the battles in between can still be up to RNGesus but at least those would be guaranteed…

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