# I just had a concerning thought about guild trophies **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [April 14, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593 "2016-04-14T18:39:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/1 "2016-04-14T18:39:37Z")
Continuing the discussion from [To cheat or not to cheat that be the question](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/to-cheat-or-not-to-cheat-that-be-the-question/5470): so I was checkin out the above thread… and so the pc fixed this problem by making it take a trophy when you retreat… so… someone could potentially lose trophies on purpose for a guild… seeing how only leaders can kick this can rack up quite a bit… I’ll admit to bein offline enitrely some days only logging in for `1 minute to snatch my daily bonus and collect my tributes… ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/2 "2016-04-14T18:41:09Z")
The fix for that is just to close your guild and keep it on invite only. ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/3 "2016-04-14T18:42:15Z")
because noone I invite would ever lie to me or be a spy. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/4 "2016-04-14T18:43:23Z")
If that does happen, you can just kick them when you get back on and send the devs a support ticket about what happened. They would be able to restore whatever loss was deliberately deducted from your guild. ---
**Author:** ![sethrogensbackhair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sethrogensbackhair/32/563_2.png) [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/5 "2016-04-14T18:49:45Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/8/828510c115054a0a0de49d1d2f1c2c03be21623f.PNG) ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/6 "2016-04-14T18:57:18Z")
Maybe you just need to be more careful about who you invite to your guild. Sabotage shouldn’t be a concern unless you’re just mass-mailing invites to everyone willing to say, “Sure, I’ll join.” ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/7 "2016-04-14T19:24:54Z")
well since the system makes it beneficial to have a full guild I do try to fill empty slots quickly. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/8 "2016-04-14T20:18:02Z")
We will just have to be careful who we let into our Guild then @DemonicDraco ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/9 "2016-04-14T20:37:31Z")
It does reward larger guilds, but nobody’s holding a gun to your head demanding that you maximize every aspect of the game. If you want to mass-mail invites to everyone you can, fine. That’s your choice. But yes, you’re running the risk of letting some jerk in your guild who could, potentially, cause problems. You’ll have to evaluate that risk for yourself and decide whether it’s worth it to invite everyone to join you. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/10 "2016-04-14T20:41:57Z")
So are you saying that sabotage is not against the rules and is, even slightly, encouraged a bit? Not that I think that is a bad thing, I am all for competition. I just would like to know my options for trying to move up the Guild rankings 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/11 "2016-04-14T20:42:38Z")
I think it’s more like a big edge case that is the result of an otherwise decent system. ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/12 "2016-04-14T20:43:20Z")
I’m not encouraging anything, but if you invite some jerk into your guild, then give them permissions necessary to wreck your guild, and then they _do_ wreck your guild, that’s on you. Also, this: > [@Studs](#): > > I think it’s more like a big edge case that is the result of an otherwise decent system. I’m unaware of this hypothetical guild wrecking scenario ever having happened in Gems of War to date. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/13 "2016-04-14T20:45:53Z")
> [@Nex](#): > > I’m unaware of this hypothetical guild wrecking scenario ever having happened in Gems of War to date. But is it against the rules or will players be punished for doing this? Because if not, you’ll be aware of it happening soon enough now that it is in the open. ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/14 "2016-04-14T20:48:39Z")
how am i supposed to know who I’m inviting? this game has a guild but no social aspect… unless I’ve seen em on this forum I dunno who the hell I’m recruiting except its some guy I had 2-3 messages with… do any guild leaders on here really know who they are recruiting? its not like this is an mmo where people meet people all the time… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/15 "2016-04-14T20:50:04Z")
It doesn’t break any rule, so the player won’t be punished. There’s no rule about not being able to win a match/or lose on purpose. If the player gets into - trophies you can just kick him out, but no one will try these tactics. In the time player uses to reduce trophies of one guild, he could use that time to gain trophies for his guild. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/16 "2016-04-14T20:54:13Z")
And what’s the amount of trophies you think he would reduce before you notice him? 100? 200? As a guild leader myself I enter roster couple times a day, and I believe other guild leaders do the same. The “trolling” player could potentially lose your guild about a trophie each minut. To get to any significant number he would need to spend hours on constantly starting battles and retreating. Ain’t no body going to do that. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_video](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/17 "2016-04-14T20:54:17Z")
The Guild of Roisin, which I founded, has a minimum IQ requirement. If a player reaches a cumulative total of -5 trophies, he or she is kicked for stupidity. No worries about sabotage. ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/18 "2016-04-14T20:54:34Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > But is it against the rules or will players be punished for doing this? No, it is not against the rules for malevolent players to take advantage of poor guild management practices. Again, that’s on the people running the guild. > [@TaliaParks](#): > > Because if not, you’ll be aware of it happening soon enough now that it is in the open. I sincerely doubt that. But, if you’re suddenly worried, maybe you shouldn’t invite randoms, who could possibly be jerks, into your guild. > [@DemonicDraco](#): > > how am i supposed to know who I’m inviting? this game has a guild but no social aspect… unless I’ve seen em on this forum I dunno who the hell I’m recruiting except its some guy I had 2-3 messages with… do any guild leaders on here really know who they are recruiting? its not like this is an mmo where people meet people all the time… Well, we do have these forums. Otherwise, maybe try inviting people you know in real life? Or from social media? If you’re really worried about this potential yet unlikely problem, keep a closer eye on who you let join your guild. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/19 "2016-04-14T20:55:34Z")
Btw @Nex each time I see your avatars i imagine a cat speaking to all of us, in a developer kind of manner, hitting keyboard with its paws xD ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593/20 "2016-04-14T20:56:47Z")
Ha! That’s actually a photo of my cat, and I can assure you that if he could operate a keyboard, it would be nothing but swears and demands for food. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-just-had-a-concerning-thought-about-guild-trophies/5593.md?page=2)