# I have a suspicious feeling **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [May 5, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138 "2018-05-05T08:56:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/1 "2018-05-05T08:56:42Z")
So anyone else feeling like after the 3.4. Unity upgrade all the fixes and modifications to gem spawn/refresh after the Initial Unity switch have been erased again? Once again the game feels like in perma skullstorm and full matches seem to be falling into the board like there is no tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/2 "2018-05-05T10:10:12Z")
Yes, the game feels different now somehow. Using the same teams as before, it seems like faster wins. Or faster losses, when the AI gets the upper hand. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/3 "2018-05-05T11:02:10Z")
Fast is good. I’m ok with fast. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/4 "2018-05-05T11:31:14Z")
Yep I have noticed that. I just had a match where I had an Infernus/Dawnbringer/Ishabaala all with full health vs 1 almost dead troop on the ai’s side I just took a 3 pair and filled Infernus all I had to do was wait for the ai to make a move and I would win but instead the ai took a 3 pair that then cascaded enough skull matches to kill all 3 of my troops in a single turn. Quite often after Infernus explodes the board is half filled with skulls and doomskulls. Another thing I have noticed is that 4/5 gem matches don’t give me an extra turn. It happened again in my last battle I took a 5 pair that gave Infernus 10 mana but I didn’t get an extra turn out of it and no I wasn’t frozen the ai hadn’t had a turn yet and it didn’t have anything that could freeze me. I have lost quite a few battles this week because of not getting the extra turn. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/5 "2018-05-05T12:25:49Z")
Doomskulls are another accelerator, especially since they can chain react. I haven’t played any battles where I’m actually focusing since the patch but cascades seem about where they were before (ie., extremely spiky). I don’t think the game particularly needed another accelerator with PvP being the way it is now, but it is about what I expected. > [@Maxx](#): > > Another thing I have noticed is that 4/5 gem matches don’t give me an extra turn. I’ve seen this about half a dozen times. Several times on the very first move - I swipe an obvious match 4-5 and click to cast my mana generator but notice the enemy is taking a turn. I thought I might have been getting the “gems swipe in the wrong direction” thing or maybe my eyes playing tricks because I’m playing very quickly, but now that you mentioned this, I noticed that I did indeed get the correct amount of mana, I just didn’t get the turn. And no, not frozen, and no, not matching a doomskull into my match 4 and blowing it up. I might have to record a batch to see what this is about… ---
**Author:** ![daveis23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@daveis23](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/daveis23)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/6 "2018-05-05T14:03:39Z")
missing free turns as well here ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/7 "2018-05-05T14:12:54Z")
i have noticed the 4-5 match not giving extra turns also. Not alot, maybe 1 in 20, but it happens too much ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/8 "2018-05-05T15:43:43Z")
> [@Luck Factor... Get rid of it or fix it](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/luck-factor-get-rid-of-it-or-fix-it/38900/24): > > Update. Luck factor still seems good in the raids. But the constant skull storm like drops made me go 0-4. But hopefully this just cleary demonstrates that doing them right after reset is a horrible choice. 2 nights of back to back shit mechanics against troops that are unforgiving of them. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/9 "2018-05-05T15:44:48Z")
> [@Hoop](#): > > i have noticed the 4-5 match not giving extra turns also. Not alot, maybe 1 in 20, but it happens too much Proof of it happening > [@3.4 Known Issues (PC/Mobile/Console)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-4-known-issues-pc-mobile-console/38732/253): > > The extra turn bug has nothing to do with Doomskulls. But there is a bug that causes an extra turn not to register. In this match during a pet rescue. I did a 4 gem yellow match. That’s it… Then the AI made a move… Much to my surprise. PS…my apologies to anyone the reads this and is offended by my bug report. How dare I want the game to be the best it can be. Shame on me. … Or… You could just not get butt hurt so easily… There’s always that. No one forces you to… ---
**Author:** ![slayer666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@slayer666](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/slayer666)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/10 "2018-05-05T20:24:19Z")
Yeah something is definitely off with this game. I came here to see if others had noticed the perpetual bonestorm too. These Cinco de Mayo skulls are banging me around like a piñata. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/11 "2018-05-05T22:07:57Z")
is it just the holiday skulls or are skulls dropping a lot more ??? ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/12 "2018-05-05T22:44:28Z")
Doomskull are dropping like crazy, they seems at least as common as normal skulls… And they are supposed to be dropping 10% of the skull but they are more like 50% loll ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/13 "2018-05-06T01:26:34Z")
Someone definitely left the bonestorm switch turned on. Skulls are falling much more frequently than prior to the update. I had hoped it had something to do with the Cinco de Mayo skulls and would be over by the weekend, but apparently that was for naught. I have also had the no extra turn experience multiple times, most frequently on the first match of the game. I’m beginning to think it has something to do with playing too fast, but I don’t have sufficient evidence to support that theory. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/14 "2018-05-06T01:29:41Z")
> [@RiverSong](#): > > Someone definitely left the bonestorm switch turned on. Skulls are falling much more frequently than prior to the update. I had hoped it had something to do with the Cinco de Mayo skulls and would be over by the weekend, but apparently that was for naught. Or is it only okay when it’s your Paranoia and not mine? Interesting. 🤔 > [@P.S.A. (Pet Saving Announcement)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/p-s-a-pet-saving-announcement/39039/46): > > Your paranoia has fooled you again. We’re on the same platform, and we’ve had 6 just this morning. But since you’re not happy unless you have something to complain about, please feel free to carry on. ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/15 "2018-05-06T01:33:27Z")
How intriguing. Thought outside verification would please you. On the other hand, I guess nothing I do now could do that. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/16 "2018-05-06T04:13:27Z")
I concur with these suspicions. Unity skull cascades seem dafter than ever. A couple of 4-match bugs are known to the devs and I suspect others. 1. 4-matches can get missed on your first turn occasionally (I’ve not experienced this but many here and in my guild have reported it) 2. 4-matches can be destroyed by doomskulls before the extra turn is registered (I’ve had this, and reported it) I’ve definitely experiennced others, and I use loop/control teams most of the time so I seriously notice when the turn passes when it shouldn’t. When you get the 4-match issue - does the ‘extra turn’ message pop up? PS: guys don’t start trolling each other here… ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/17 "2018-05-06T04:27:27Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > PS: guys don’t start trolling each other here… Fine Jainus… My theory is… 1. The code is pushing Doomskulls to hard. Instead of 1/10 normal skulls dropping a Doom skull. “RnG” is being told… Push 10% skulls from drops with 1/10 being DmS. 2. When in spoilers Cyrup tried to explain Doomskulls to us. They were like normal skulls sometimes… But not the same other times. We were all confused… So I bet the AI controlling RNG is confused as well. Doomskulls + luck factor (even a slight edge to the AI) + over powered troops (Raids) = a huge negative cause and effect from 3.4. Luckily, for the devs, too many are distracted by doing pet rescues to notice the AI being once again… Increased in difficulty. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/18 "2018-05-06T05:33:23Z")
Cascades in general seem to be getting worse as well. I have never got 2 maps from cascades on my first turn before ![Untitled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/1/71c8c5422f4066c3abd7d4222771fedbd82f2d80.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/19 "2018-05-06T11:27:29Z")
Concur with the missing extra turn on 4/5 matches as well. First couple of times I was confused and thought I had made a wrong move somehow but now I’m sure it happened. Pinging @Saltypatra @Nimhain and @Cyrup to help investigate. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138/20 "2018-05-06T11:46:03Z")
Hey guys, when we added doomskulls we accidentally made skulls more common overall by accident. The team is looking at a fix. Says my crystal ball. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-have-a-suspicious-feeling/39138.md?page=2)