# I can't believe this works **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [August 11, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970 "2016-08-11T01:17:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/1 "2016-08-11T01:17:17Z")
Really?! ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/0/01bda169aee8b2c1ad271a77cfba30b8f67262f3.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/5f69b709e61b950d0f6076bf5e408c26d42156e1.jpg) I’ve been testing quite a few different defend builds lately so I can make a new “Best Defend Teams” video. I was kind of joking when I set this one… 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Lordy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lordy/32/5756_2.png) [@Lordy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lordy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/2 "2016-08-11T01:31:17Z")
Damn, I don’t have Famine & only one not fully traited Death. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadowfyre/32/9679_2.png) [@Shadowfyre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadowfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/3 "2016-08-11T01:47:14Z")
Well, yesterday, death popped two of my players instantly! It was all downhill from there. And they only had one death on their team 😯 ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadowfyre/32/9679_2.png) [@Shadowfyre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadowfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/4 "2016-08-11T01:49:16Z")
And double famine teams are always a worry. ---
**Author:** ![stabito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@stabito](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/stabito)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/5 "2016-08-11T01:52:44Z")
i myself have been using Famine Famine Acoltye Famine since Famine was released and have yet to go negative in defense wins in fact before emperor korvash and stun was introduced i managed a few weeks with a 2:1 win ratio ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/6 "2016-08-11T02:02:56Z")
> [@stabito](#): > > Famine Famine Acoltye Famine I keep Famines out of 1st 2 due to Emperor Khorvash. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/7 "2016-08-11T02:34:32Z")
Seems if you switch up defense teams often it throws everyone off ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/8 "2016-08-11T02:38:04Z")
Only have one Famine so I’ve been using Gorg/2x Death/Famine. Works pretty well! ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/9 "2016-08-11T02:44:08Z")
What the hell, I used this earlier and didn’t get anywhere near that kind of result. Hacks! ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/10 "2016-08-11T02:55:20Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > What the hell, I used this earlier and didn’t get anywhere near that kind of result Did you use same order and banner? That could switch it up some. The only other factor could be that I have 5 star all kingdoms. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/11 "2016-08-11T03:49:47Z")
> [@DEMONorANGEL](#): > > Seems if you switch up defense teams often it throws everyone off This definitely works for me. I have more wins than losses on defense a lot ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/12 "2016-08-11T04:06:22Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > Did you use same order and banner? Well… no… ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/13 "2016-08-11T04:29:30Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Well… no… Death - Famine - Death - Famine is actually a lot weaker than Death - Death - Famine - Famine (I tested it.) The main reasons for this is Emperor Khorvash and the fact that Death does a lot more skull damage, especially if he casts once. The banner is set to brown/yellow to counter Maw and to make sure Famine fills quickly. If the AI takes brown/yellow 2 times and gets 3 surges, that is only 3 turns for a Famine. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/14 "2016-08-11T05:33:40Z")
And I’m here trying to get a single mythic. . Sigh. . ---
**Author:** ![Treemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/treemo/32/8848_2.png) [@Treemo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Treemo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/15 "2016-08-11T06:39:07Z")
Pay to win confirmed. 😸 I guess stat reduction can destroy any team that relies on skull damage and if either Death or Famine cast it’s pretty devastating. ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/16 "2016-08-11T07:57:43Z")
Looks to me like a too small sample size. My defense team win:lose ratio is 1:2 at best, yet I sometimes see a win streak of 5+ together. Unless it’s consistent throughout the week, I wouldn’t take these results too seriously. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/17 "2016-08-11T13:46:32Z")
This is exactly the issue. You have to build a team that can still deal damage after all the passive draining. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/18 "2016-08-11T14:06:25Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > that can still deal damage after all the passive draining. (\*\* that has Maw on it) ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/19 "2016-08-11T14:14:43Z")
With a single-use spell, Maw isn’t actually the best counter. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shadowfyre/32/9679_2.png) [@Shadowfyre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadowfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970/20 "2016-08-11T14:39:58Z")
I’m not a big maw fan for that reason. I prefer famine’s damage abilities, as long as you hold back and strike when your opponents mana is high. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-cant-believe-this-works/10970.md?page=2)