# I am tired of being Maw'ed

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [July 8, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282 "2016-07-08T19:43:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/21 "2016-07-12T07:27:54Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> I don’t foresee them nerfing Maw any further, though my favorite suggestion is still to change the third trait to:
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> ` If skull damage I do would kill a target, Devour it instead.`

The only trouble with this is that it could potentially make Maw more annoying. If the team is full of attack buffs, a Maw with 40 attack is now very likely to Devour with one or two attacks. By snowball effect, his sequential attacks will just wipe your team; only this time not with a 15% chance, with nearly a guarantee.

> [@captain\_video](#):
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> My level 155 phone alt was offered a ranked match against a level 1000 fully-traited Maw team. How fair is that? She won the match, but only because Maw didn’t get a chance to strike.

I’ve said it before… I don’t skip any teams anymore. I haven’t since my first week of play. I opt for the 3rd (hardest) choice every time. RNG is a part of this game. Understanding the meta (AI propensities; i.e. skull, lead color/match 4+ priority, etc.) is another. That being said, you can do everything right and still lose. That is the nature of the beast. But why would you want an opponent that loses in every instance because they are too weak to compete against your team?

Maybe it’s just me, but the fun for me is having an enemy that has all the _bells and whistiles_ and still beating that team because I have composed a versatile set-up that can destroy others’ defenses; not a squirrel team that I can steamroll over and over again.

Admittedly, I would like to see a bit more variety in defend teams, but that’s not to say that I don’t see some already. _MAYBE_ 20% of the teams I face are Mabs, Goblins or Maws, although it is understandable as those have the highest win-rate and win-rate is part of the current PvP ladder structure. Aside from those, I do see a good amount of unique teams; some with even greater synergy than the “OP” builds (as defend teams).

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### Author: ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/22 "2016-07-12T07:31:43Z")

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> [@Phaethon](#):
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> The only trouble with this is that it could potentially make Maw more annoying. If the team is full of attack buffs, a Maw with 40 attack is now very likely to Devour with one or two attacks. By snowball effect, his sequential attacks will just wipe your team; only this time not with a 15% chance, with nearly a guarantee.

I think that’s fine. As a trade-off, you could mitigate against the third trait by healing or Barrier. It eliminates random chance in favor of something deterministic. Bad drops might still cause you pain, but that’s true of, well, every other troop.

In my opinion, Devour is much too strong of an effect to leave to a perecentage chance. As others have mentioned before, it either is a low chance and fails to satisfy the attacker, or it is a high chance and completely destroys the defender.

Then again, it might make Maw too strong in the hands of a player. Sigh.

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/23 "2016-07-12T07:57:15Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Then again, it might make Maw too strong in the hands of a player. Sigh.

You can’t go swimming and not get wet… Sigh, indeed.

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### Author: ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 7:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/24 "2016-07-12T07:59:39Z")

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well you could but it would not be called swimming per say

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### Author: ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/25 "2016-07-12T08:01:46Z")

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Yeah, so far the only alternatives I see are either reworking Devour or reworking the third trait. I feel like the devs painted themselves into a corner with this one.

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/26 "2016-07-12T08:03:10Z")

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> [@killerman3333](#):
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> well you could but it would not be called swimming per say

You can’t eat your cake and keep it whole.

## SHALL THIS SUFFICE!?

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/28 "2016-07-12T08:06:29Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Yeah, so far the only alternatives I see are either reworking Devour or reworking the third trait. I feel like the devs painted themselves into a corner with this one.

Yes, well from what I’ve heard (though I have not checked myself)…

Spoiler! :

People have peered into the files and discovered an ‘Immunity to Devour’ trait. Nevertheless, not sure if this is a cure-all, but suppose it could work.

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### Author: ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/29 "2016-07-12T08:07:35Z")

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If by “people” you mean me… 🙂

It depends on what troop it’s attached to. If the troop is tanky enough then yes, it might very well be a counter.

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/30 "2016-07-12T08:14:06Z")

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Ah, okay. Wasn’t sure of who had and hadn’t snooped, so I didn’t wanna inadvertently ruin anyone’s experience. 😛 I heard it through the grapevine, so wasn’t sure of its validity. But, yes, I suppose it would be a bit contingent on which troops get it. However, if it is covered under the ‘Impervious’ umbrella, Golem might be one hell of a tank.

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### Author: ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/31 "2016-07-12T08:16:26Z")

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> [@Phaethon](#):
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> However, if it is covered under the ‘Impervious’ umbrella

Good timing – it is. 🙂 See this thread:

> [@Update 2.0.1 Preview](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-2-0-1-preview/9427):
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> Originally published at: [Update 2.0.1 Preview – Gems of War](http://gemsofwar.com/update-2-0-1-preview/) Take a look at some of the cool new things coming in the 2.0.1 Update. New Mode: Explore A new game mode has been added in ALL Kingdoms. It is accessible once that Kingdom’s quest line is finished. [[image] ](http://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Explore-Button.png) Explore Mode throws you into a random battle from its Kingdom, with a few troops changed around to keep it fresh, and in return offers you a double chance of Runic Traitstones, and a triple chance at Arcane & Celestial Traitsto…

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/32 "2016-07-12T08:28:22Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Good timing – it is.

Well, then… Golem too OP! Needs nerf! _grabs pitchfork_

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### Author: ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 6:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-am-tired-of-being-mawed/9282/33 "2016-07-15T06:25:30Z")

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> [@Phaethon](#):
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> Well, then… Golem too OP! Needs nerf! grabs pitchfork

Next time, I’ll be more careful what I wish for.

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