# How often are YOU running into the "super lucky" opponents? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [February 14, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082 "2017-02-14T20:10:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/209 "2017-05-25T21:23:27Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > Is there a difference between the gem refresh algorithms of the PC and console versions? In my mind, this is the one question that is still open That my friend is a fair point (although im not sure if you are taking the mickey out of me lol) ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/210 "2017-05-25T21:27:38Z")
@Vangor Yes, However this topic won’t go away easily. I’ve been reading these thread for 2 years. Sirrian commented in one topic that he’s been answering them for 7 years (PQ era). @beanie42 has been asking all types of questions concerning Unity and the console AI in general. He’s just investigating the next PC update and for him “its like a sneak preview”. I’m sure if you could find out about crafting you’d like to know how it works as well. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/211 "2017-05-25T21:30:59Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > taking the mickey out of me I’m not. I think you make a really good point about how a bunch of us have gone around and around these issues for a long time, and the devs have devoted a significant amount of time to putting our minds at ease on most of these questions. But on the question of “is there a difference between the two versions’ gem refreshing?”, I still haven’t seen anything aside from GoldPhoenix looking at @RyuuHou24’s video and saying, to paraphrase, “Wow, that’s weird. We might need to look into that.” (See post #112 of that other thread). ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/212 "2017-05-25T21:33:25Z")
> [@RyuuHou24](#): > > I did post it, up above. I had two people specifically bitch about “But you weren’t using X card” to me, I didin’t bitch you, what i said is you are running after trouble when you play again a gem creator without anything to stop them for looping like freeze Also like i said in your first video there is plenty 4x gems on the board and AI always been good to find and match them all. the fact the console AI been change didin’t matter with this “luck” since it was already doing this before AI improvement ---
**Author:** ![RyuuHou24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ryuuhou24/32/12760_2.png) [@RyuuHou24](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RyuuHou24)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/213 "2017-05-25T22:33:50Z")
Yeah, I’ve said my peace to you, I’ve explained it to you, you don’t get it because you refuse to either listen, or you refuse to understand. So no point in continuing on with this. ---
**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/214 "2017-05-25T22:35:13Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > The reason i feel this is relevant is because if one were to read through the thread that @Stan was so kind as to provide a link to, one would find the question of “unfair ai” asked by the same ppl for the most part as it has been here. One would also find said question answered repeatedly by @Sirrian and @GoldPhoenix0. Totally agree about the “asked and answered” stuff, and that other thread seems to have already covered it. I think I just missed it the first time through since I was mainly ignoring console at that point, and was distracted with GW sneak peeks. As @Strat pointed out, I’m a bit more interested now in console since it sounds like Unity is getting a lot closer. But I also just like math, logic, and debating, so this seemed interesting. But now that I’ve started looking at the other thread, I’m not sure there’s much left to add… ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/215 "2017-05-26T06:53:30Z")
i understand that console ai got harder, but i want to know is it really weird cascades or just the unpredictability of the new ai, so i want to see more solid study/videos to see it with my own eyes ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/216 "2017-05-26T09:25:26Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > Watch the second video at about 0:40 and tell me you see that on PC/Mobile. I see it at least once a week on console. that is exactly why i do not play low gem creators like celestasia, sure pc also can setup board for the enemy when creators missfire and yes i saw that on the pc too also i watched 30min of the first vid about how ‘goblins are the only way to go’ and all i saw was unexperienced low level player struggle (which i remmember happened to me on the pc as well when i was beginning) and i think it had nothing wrong on the ai or gem dropping part thank you all, especially @Stan @RyuuHou24 and @beanie42 for giving me a better insight on the console ai/gameplay 🙂 perhaps there was enough of materials in past but that time i wasnt interested mainly cause of the ‘complaining’ character of most voices, but since it became more of a civilised debate this time i could take on the subject in a more relaxed way and actually read it all 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/217 "2017-05-26T15:44:43Z")
So, I’ve got a free weekend coming up and it looks like the weather will not be allowing me to catch up on yardwork. Also, I’ve done more than my weekly minimums and don’t need the time to grind. If there is some interest, I’d be willing to invest some time and try streaming my PS4 gameplay. If I were to do this, what would people be interested in seeing. Some things I was thinking of while walking to work this morning: 1. Manipulating the AI sliders to demonstrate how it works and see if we can see the effects; 2. Some general PVP gameplay to show a couple things that people talk about (skull baiting not working, maybe some goofy cascades if we’re lucky). 3. ??? Anyone have any interest and/or suggestions? @Annaerith, @beanie42, @RyuuHou24 Please tag anyone else that you think might be interested. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/218 "2017-05-26T15:49:23Z")
I would be if my weekend wasnt already chock full of stuff… I will barely have time for my GW battles but i think its a great idea! ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/219 "2017-05-26T15:52:05Z")
If it works the way I think it does, you wouldn’t have to watch it live. Once I finish, you’d be able to watch the stream on the Twitch website. If I see anything remarkable, I could even post the time when the interesting things happen so people don’t have to watch the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/220 "2017-05-26T15:58:25Z")
I wouldn’t be able to watch live, but if it’s possible to watch later on demand this would be interesting. I’m specifically interested in how the sliders seem to affect the AI decisions, such as how much effect they have at different positions, and how often the AI seems to ignore them (how random do the decisions seem to be). Some of the other interesting things like skull baiting or additional cascades would probably be visible just by normal play. But this would provide some context for those like me who don’t play on console. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/221 "2017-05-26T16:01:43Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > If it works the way I think it does, you wouldn’t have to watch it live. Once I finish, you’d be able to watch the stream on the Twitch website This would be awesome! And maybe you could link to it here because idk how to twitch ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/4/14e56402f2d6be527333a7e0d12d59e748ded1a6.jpg) 👆Me ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/222 "2017-05-26T16:06:26Z")
I set up a twitch account, and it looks like it should be really easy to link to my PS4 and broadcast. I’ll do a trial run tomorrow and if that goes OK, will try a couple streams after that. I should be able to link to the livestream here, and then to the archive once it is done. We’ll see if my reality matches the how-to on IGN, or if I end up looking more like that old lady… ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/223 "2017-05-26T16:09:47Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > how to twitch ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/a/6a5b83f879268cb7ae66585d5808d8b57941f5fa.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 8:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/224 "2017-05-27T08:34:27Z")
I just lost a GW battle for the first time since week 1 and it was to a kerb gs fg kerb team… I am so mad! Kerb should be nerfed into tje ground his devour proc’d 47 times in one fight! I should get all my points anyway due to cheating AI and a bonus 1 million glory for the inconvenience… ---
**Author:** ![RyuuHou24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ryuuhou24/32/12760_2.png) [@RyuuHou24](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RyuuHou24)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/225 "2017-05-27T09:09:50Z")
@Vangor ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/6/16e33bbaf28a3425a852d8ceadebf4a8329d0b2f.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/226 "2017-05-27T11:55:50Z")
@RyuuHou24 STOP BEING MEAN TO ME OR I’M GONNA CRY! ---
**Author:** ![brandonwiker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/brandonwiker/32/14837_2.png) [@brandonwiker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/brandonwiker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/227 "2017-05-27T13:15:48Z")
Another epic win for the slot machine: enemy kraken goes 3 for 3 in spell devour while my two kerbs go 2 for 5. GW is literally a coin flip. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082/228 "2017-05-27T13:21:54Z")
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Then ive lost only 2 coin flips out of 145 i must be incredibly lucky​:four\_leaf\_clover:🍀🍀 [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082.md?page=10) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-often-are-you-running-into-the-super-lucky-opponents/20082.md?page=12)