# How is that possible for a mythic guardian troop currently? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 14, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343 "2016-09-14T05:13:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zqxinran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8797f3/32.png) [@zqxinran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/zqxinran)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/1 "2016-09-14T05:13:59Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/78172b33aa63bf8ae5ec9640ccca99b3d5c24336.png) I don’t think it’s possible that a player can get make guardian troop in about 2 days… @Sirrian @Nimhain ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/2 "2016-09-14T05:15:10Z")
Why not? Maybe he is a big spender? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/3 "2016-09-14T05:20:51Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > Why not? Maybe he is a big spender? The math on that would be insane… I agree with OP, something is fishy ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/4 "2016-09-14T05:24:54Z")
Seal purchases are _supposed_ to be limited to once per week. Even with the max possible purchases, it _should_ have only been possible to gain 225 guild key drops total (30x $20.00 packs from the entire guild for 4 keys = 120 keys, and 1500 seals + 1000 purchased seals on self for another 125 keys). Since you need 191 copies of a specific guardian to mythic it, and each individual guardian is about 8.3% of the guild key drop pool… yeah, it is highly unlikely. Even an utlra-rare at this point would cause me to raise an eyebrow. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/5 "2016-09-14T05:31:19Z")
I didin’t know the purchases were limited, you are right something must be wrong ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/6 "2016-09-14T05:32:37Z")
I bought all 3 packs this week and I can’t buy anymore. Can confirm it’s limited. ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/7 "2016-09-14T05:40:14Z")
Thanks guys, we’ll take a look into this. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/8 "2016-09-14T05:43:27Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Seal purchases are _supposed_ to be limited to once per week. Even with the max possible purchases, it _should_ have only been possible to gain 225 guild key drops total (30x $20.00 packs from the entire guild for 4 keys = 120 keys, and 1500 seals + 1000 purchased seals on self for another 125 keys). Since you need 191 copies of a specific guardian to mythic it, and each individual guardian is about 8.3% of the guild key drop pool… yeah, it is highly unlikely. Even an utlra-rare at this point would cause me to raise an eyebrow. Based on those numbers it is a less than 0.001% chance of likelihood. RABBLE! RABBLE,RABBLE! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/d/d14a28a9198bed9df58eee224c3f389a5c02fbea.jpg)](https://imgflip.com/i/1akkgs) ---
**Author:** ![VegaDark541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vegadark541/32/7875_2.png) [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/9 "2016-09-14T05:44:05Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Based on those numbers it is a less than 0.001% chance of likelihood. So you’re telling me there’s a chance!!?! ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/10 "2016-09-14T05:46:09Z")
To pull 191 of the same Guardian out of 225 chests? It’s statistically possible, but _extremely_ unlikely ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/11 "2016-09-14T05:55:03Z")
My numbers are a bit off if it is possible to buy _every_ seal pack in the same week. Adjusting for that, we have: $35.00 from every member for 7x30 guild keys for every member, presumable including self (210) 1500 personal seals (75) 1650 seals from purchases (82) So 367 maximum possible keys total in a week. After a total over $1000 dollar expenditure. ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/12 "2016-09-14T06:08:51Z")
He has 2 mythic guardians though, so he’d need to open 382 chests at least (even assuming they dropped nothing but these 2 guardians), and that is currently not possible at all. ---
**Author:** ![Nono2506](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nono2506/32/21430_2.png) [@Nono2506](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nono2506)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/13 "2016-09-14T06:58:39Z")
Isn’t it possible to obtain them from VIP chests? ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/14 "2016-09-14T07:00:18Z")
Guardians are supposed to be exclusive to guild chests, that was the whole idea. ---
**Author:** ![Nono2506](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nono2506/32/21430_2.png) [@Nono2506](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nono2506)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 7:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/15 "2016-09-14T07:23:48Z")
Oh I seen that there were available in VIP since they came in. I thought that was meant to be for the next 19days or whatever timer was for the VIP. My bad! ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 7:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/16 "2016-09-14T07:37:38Z")
Hack detected! Banhammer activated. Fix on the way! ---
**Author:** ![yonizaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/yonizaf/32/1435_2.png) [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/17 "2016-09-14T07:50:35Z")
> [@Nono2506](#): > > I seen that there were available in VIP You’re probably talking about this? The text probably got there by mistake, since it doesn’t match the adjacent image. What says you, @Sirrian? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/9/968c26128e38b316eba55b49a49d108067e7eb07.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/18 "2016-09-14T09:34:49Z")
1500 seals for doing the tasks to gain them, then an additional 1650 for shop purchases that week. Take all of that and divide it by cost of chest of 20 and you get 3150/20=157.5keyss ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/19 "2016-09-14T10:52:19Z")
Just to be sure i think it would be better to check the entire guild @Sirrian, i mean, if it’s possible to detect the activity without too much trouble, because some could be using it to have mythics of normal troops long released. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343/20 "2016-09-14T11:33:56Z")
Don’t forget the additional 210 keys if literally everyone in the guild purchased all three seal packs each week. But the conversation is irrelevant, now; Sirrian already mentioned that they were cheating in some way. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-is-that-possible-for-a-mythic-guardian-troop-currently/12343.md?page=2)