# How are brackets decided (bug?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Created:** [May 15, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157 "2017-05-15T09:29:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/70 "2017-05-29T08:41:40Z")
Maybe set up a poll for all of bracket 1 a few hours before the weekly turnover next week? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/71 "2017-05-29T08:42:29Z")
I voted bracket 1, because it is what should be logically expected… A poll for the whole bracket 1 would be nice. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/72 "2017-05-29T08:45:47Z")
Everyone knows where Anonymous and Intrim will end up. 🙂 I’ll let you guys add polls for the rest of the teams. I just wanted to go to bed less irritated that I have to even ask the question of what bracket we’ll be in this week. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/73 "2017-05-29T08:47:12Z")
Who knows? 😃 We always come back to the same thing: we should have some clear explanations on how promotions and demotions are decided. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/74 "2017-05-29T10:26:27Z")
Unfortunately you were right… Unrepentant and Hoguns are back in bracket 2 and Match Masters are back in bracket 1. What is the point of trying to perform in GW if you are punished instead of being rewarded? Many top guilds have already lost some players because of GW. It is only going to make things worse. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/75 "2017-05-29T10:37:18Z")
@Sirrian, @Nimhain @Saltypatra Hoguns was 5th and Unrepentant was 6th last week but we are both back in bracket 2 can you please explain why we were demoted? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/5/c532d87a397decf23915bd2d5f2eb2994665671b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/76 "2017-05-29T10:38:01Z")
Where can we see the overall points table from last week? there was a thread on it? In MatchMasters last week we won 4 of our 6 battles in bracket 2, and had a decent score… but if we’ve bounced back up into bracket 1, it must also be due to our cumulative trophy pile…? again, clarity on this from devs would be nice… EDIT: might have been 5 of 6, can’t remember… ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/77 "2017-05-29T10:39:46Z")
> [@Aelthwyn](#): > > What is the point of trying to perform in GW I am wondering why I should bother trying. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/78 "2017-05-29T10:39:55Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Where can we see the overall points table from last week? there was a thread on it? Unfortunately not, that would be useful. ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/79 "2017-05-29T11:09:47Z")
@Hoguns and @Unrepentant members: Why aren’t you raising more ruckus here? This is absolutely ridiculous! This is the second time that you were basically screwed over with the GW brackets! For me personally (I’m in Marthos Guardians), I feel like these unknown rules for GW bracket movement are killing any enjoyment in GW right now. We finished #8 this week, so I feel like we’re not deserving to be in bracket 1 either if the #5 and #6 are demoted to bracket 2. I like the challenge of the mono-color invades in GW, but this bracket movement crazyness is making me question my participation in a competion without clear rules… ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/80 "2017-05-29T11:30:31Z")
Absolutely mind boggling. I would not be as calm as you guys in this perverse situation. ---
**Author:** ![EmperorHenk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emperorhenk/32/19388_2.png) [@EmperorHenk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmperorHenk)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/81 "2017-05-29T11:39:50Z")
I must say that as an Unrepentant member I am sick of this. It kind of takes the pleasure away from trying to run a great GW week. The only thing we can do is let the devs know that we don’t agree with their calculations if it means that we get placed back a bracket while our two weeks in bracket 1 meant a 5th and a 6th place. Hopefully the devs will get this sorted out quickly, because I don’t know how long GW will be fun if we do not get properly rewarded for our efforts. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/82 "2017-05-29T12:05:29Z")
We did the first time it happened. And they pretty much said nothing. They can’t shed any light on how the scoring works because it might be exploited. It’s a waste of f-ing time. They don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/83 "2017-05-29T12:06:27Z")
@Saltypatra if by **any** chance you guys are adding total-trophies or sentinels etc into bracketing equation please just **ninja-remove it** so we could have a fun competition and you could save your face… whatever is taken into consideration for bracketing should be closed within the current week of play, not whole guild-existence history and if winning required gems at least it would be fair to admit it openly ideally i think everyone would agree that without knowing the formula we can be still fine if the formula was based **solely on the gw performance statistics** , you can still work with the facts who won against who (the daily wars) so it should be fine ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/84 "2017-05-29T12:06:43Z")
See my other response. I’m not calm, I’m resigned. Honestly, I’m about ready to just get rid of the game altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/85 "2017-05-29T12:13:27Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Honestly, I’m about ready to just get rid of the game altogether Hang in there… things always get better… Personally I am making do until Crafting hits… I _almost_ enjoyed GW last week, in bracket 2… matches were a little more mixed, enemies were not _all_ lv1100+… our guild could compete… ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/86 "2017-05-29T12:16:02Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > I _almost_ enjoyed GW last week, in bracket 2… matches were a little more mixed, enemies were not _all_ lv1100+… our guild could compete… The vacations are over. You are having us tomorrow. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![psydotogist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/psydotogist/32/12747_2.png) [@psydotogist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/psydotogist)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/87 "2017-05-29T12:16:32Z")
My guild just won ALL DAILY Guild War battles and now jump to bracket 2 from bracket 4. Make your guess. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/88 "2017-05-29T12:17:21Z")
Then why have the points rankings at all? Use the points for tie-breakers and be honest about what the game is doing. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157/89 "2017-05-29T12:18:30Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Then why have the points rankings at all? > > Use the points for tie-breakers and be honest about what the game is doing. Exactly. What it the point of trying to compete when you don’t know what you have to do to win and if you can’t win no matter how good are your results? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-are-brackets-decided-bug/24157.md?page=5)