# Hound of Doom **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [August 26, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731 "2018-08-26T23:00:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/41 "2018-08-27T00:36:26Z")
We were considering these nerfs for some time, but wanted to make sure they weren’t too much, or too little, before releasing them. As always, you will be able to refund these troops in game if you so wish. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/42 "2018-08-27T00:38:09Z")
Unless you crafted them or spent seals . ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/43 "2018-08-27T00:50:22Z")
> [@DEMONorANGEL](#): > > Unless you crafted them or spent seals . I by no means wanted any nerfs. But I think all of us saw a nerf was coming for these troops, especially for Ubasted, they were the best troops in the game. The best troops in the game has a history of getting nerfed. However I wish they rather spent time buffing other troops instead. But it is what it is. Annoyed? Yes, quite a bit. But I will move on with it. ---
**Author:** ![Chrisbgrind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chrisbgrind/32/26017_2.png) [@Chrisbgrind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chrisbgrind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/44 "2018-08-27T00:50:28Z")
It was expected of Ubastet. I don’t think Infernus needed it. Ishbaala is a toss for me. I didn’t use her cause I could care less about her making skulls. I used Suna in the 4th spot. The Fairey Fire proc IMO is better then the skulls. Just my thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/45 "2018-08-27T00:53:50Z")
When i got my second ubaset there was no nerf uba threads. just pissed i bought a second junk uba for 10k seals 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/46 "2018-08-27T00:54:58Z")
> [@DEMONorANGEL](#): > > When i got my second ubaset there was no nerf uba threads. just pissed i bought a second junk uba for 10k seals 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 You was very lucky my friend. I also went for a 2nd Ubastet back then. I spent about 20-30k seals and 100s of gem keys. I did not even get a 2nd Ubastet. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/47 "2018-08-27T00:59:11Z")
Quite okay with the nerfs. Just that I would have removed the “Enchant 2 allies” better than the “Cleanse all allies” on Ishballa’s spell. ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/48 "2018-08-27T01:05:09Z")
I know I’m not one to talk since I was one of the most vocal people on this forum wanting a Famine nerf but I was wrong. Nerfing is not the answer counters and giving people a reason to use different defense teams is the only way to deal with OP meta team. Remember Bone Dragon made the best team in the game and then he got nerfed and we got some variety until Wisp but then that got nerfed and along came Forest Troll/Kraken until they got nerfed and it was Nyx /Dawnbringer but then Nyx got nerfed. Those nerfs didn’t do crap to help with variety all they did was make all those troop useless. This nerf won’t do a damn thing either until the next OP meta team is found and then that will overtake PvP and then that will get nerfed and make even more troops useless. Why bother waiting anymore just nerf Arachnaean Weaver before people start to use it and may as well chuck in a Rhynax nerf while you are there STOP NERFING EVERYTHING AND DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM PROPERLY BY GIVING PEOPLE A REASON TO USE DIFFERENT DEFENSE TEAMS. > [@Saltypatra](#): > > As always, you will be able to refund these troops in game if you so wish. On my second account I want the diamonds and stuff I used to craft Infernus refunded, the major orb of wisdom I used on Ishbaala and the hundreds of event keys I used to get her to mythic refunded too ---
**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/49 "2018-08-27T01:09:27Z")
> [@Chrisbgrind](#): > > Ishbaala is a toss for me. I didn’t use her cause I could care less about her making skulls. I used Suna in the 4th spot. The Fairey Fire proc IMO is better then the skulls. Just my thoughts. No one used her in this team for skulls… ---
**Author:** ![cky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cky/32/54091_2.png) [@cky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cky)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/50 "2018-08-27T01:18:24Z")
> [@Chrisbgrind](#): > > I didn’t use her cause I could care less about her making skulls. Lol, I would still make a speedy PvP team with Divine Protector, Ubastet, Infernus, and Divine Ishbaala even if my hero was entangled for the whole battle. Ishbaala’s strength comes in three ways: - All divines start with 50% mana - Generation of large amounts of yellow mana (used by both Ubastet and Infernus), if timed correctly - And of course, board control The skulls do not factor into it at all. I use Divine Protector and Ubastet to deal damage. Massive amounts of damage. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/51 "2018-08-27T01:21:01Z")
Divine hero with divine protector cleanse himself so you still can use skulls ---
**Author:** ![tbronx69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@tbronx69](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/tbronx69)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/52 "2018-08-27T01:27:01Z")
My tag is T BRONX 69 on Xbox One and I want my 4000 diamonds for Ubastet refunded. I spent two months saving up when I purchased it and just traitstones and souls is not acceptable. I would not have bought this nerfed version. Thank you in advance for this as it is only fair. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/53 "2018-08-27T01:27:56Z")
Sorry to tell you, but you won’t get these resources back. If that was the case, 496 of us would had sent in a ticket asking for a refund. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/54 "2018-08-27T01:28:30Z")
Devs never refunded and will surely never do it diamonds or seals. Maybe wait for the nerf to see how “bad” your team has became… ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/55 "2018-08-27T01:32:54Z")
I got a feeling this nerf is more about slowing attack team than defense. Dev probably think it was too quick to farm trophy and gold ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/56 "2018-08-27T01:34:35Z")
This is why I stay away from using the meta. The will not really affect me other than the occasional loss from a crap board. Which can happen from more than just this power trio… ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/57 "2018-08-27T01:35:26Z")
> [@Razzagor](#): > > The hero whould have decent weapons, i think it’s nice to use him/her/it with some classes that received good talents, all four or five of them. The rest… well… they surely are a pain to play with… I am pretty sure the hero is an “it”.😆 There is no way a living being with a brain can be that dumb… I just don’t like using the hero because the hero-graphics don’t match the rest of the art very well and also because the hero is a moron. I dislike the hero’s personality, so just like I don’t use Ishbaala because of her lore, I don’t use the hero because of dislike. These two are actually the only two characters I dislike enough to never use them… ---
**Author:** ![Brakkish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/brakkish/32/24058_2.png) [@Brakkish](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Brakkish)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/58 "2018-08-27T01:36:31Z")
Just as I suspected, the nerf came as soon as I finally set aside enough resources to craft Ubastet. Where does it fall on the mythic power scale now? ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/59 "2018-08-27T01:40:14Z")
My biggest concern is infernus taking a hit after being around much longer and never was a issue before. The rest of these divines just took his glory away. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Freak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/the_freak/32/32738_2.png) [@The\_Freak](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/The_Freak)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731/60 "2018-08-27T01:42:22Z")
To all who are unhappy about the nerf yet kept on putting that OP team on their PvP defense… HA! Lesson: If you don’t want something to get nerfed don’t make it a defense meta. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hound-of-doom/44731.md?page=4)