# Here Comes the Rain Again **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [October 7, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971 "2018-10-07T23:00:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/21 "2018-10-08T07:35:35Z")
> [@Venar](#): > > That is a lot of passive damage for a trait. When there are 4 opponent troops, Kraken, Hydra and Sagaro deal a total of 12 damage. This new troop remain at 10 whatever number of enemy troop remaining though. About these kind of troops, I take opportunity to show an incoherence about Viper 3rd trait to @Cyrup Kraken (legendary) 3rd trait = 3 damages to ALL Hydra (legendary 3rd trait = 3 damages to ALL Sagaro (legendary) 3rd trait = 3 damages to ALL Viper (legendary) 3rd trait = 3 damages to ONE ! šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/22 "2018-10-08T07:58:12Z")
150 event keys - 7 Garuda, 0 Tacola Taloca. What?! šŸ˜ Itā€™s because I keep spelling his name wrong, isnā€™t it? Please forgive me, Lord Taloca. I promise I will take a good care of you once you drop for me. Pleaseā€¦? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/23 "2018-10-08T08:37:55Z")
Frostmage has a 25% chance to freeze on cast. Viper does 3 damage on cast. They think cast is easier than 4/5 match šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/24 "2018-10-08T08:48:19Z")
lol yeah that might be their reasoning. The prob is when you loop indefinately casts you also loop indefinately 4x combo, otherwise you wouldntā€¦loop. šŸ˜† So with this reasoning, Kraken should also deal 3 damages to only one enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/25 "2018-10-08T09:33:37Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > They think cast is easier than 4/5 match šŸ˜› I assume everyone else here (like me) thinks otherwise. You also assume the devs have made the comparison. Balance-wise I suspect they rarely look at other stuff when writing new stuff these days. > [@Jainus](#): > > Taloca: good trait. Spell likely to feel under-powered - though in current meta thereā€™s a storm of some kind permanently because of hero traits, or occasionally something else. Correction, having run with it for a while: spell is stupidly underpowered. Double-boosted this week, itā€™s 38 before the Storm bonus - roughly 9 damage each enemy for 16 mana. Thatā€™s pants. With a storm in play, still feels rather weak. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/26 "2018-10-08T09:47:10Z")
Yes, Viper cries again!! šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/27 "2018-10-08T10:15:21Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Correction, having run with it for a while: spell is stupidly underpowered. Double-boosted this week, itā€™s 38 before the Storm bonus - roughly 9 damage each enemy for 16 mana. Thatā€™s pants. With a storm in play, still feels rather weak. Titania feels like a natural comparison. For the same mana cost, you get an AoE (which might be further boosted by the faerie fire from Titaniaā€™s third trait), and a possible extra turn. The saving grace of Talocaā€™s spell is that it gets significantly better as the battle progresses. 99 split damage winds up being pretty awesome for 16 mana if there is only one target left. The fact that it needs a storm to be tripled is a bit irritating, sure, but itā€™s balanced out by a pretty sweet third trait. If you _have_ a storm going, chances are youā€™re triggering that third trait routinely, which softens up opponents for the eventual _coup de grace_ of Talocaā€™s spell. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/28 "2018-10-08T10:46:29Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > you get a double conversion Probably me being dense and sleepy, but what do you mean by this bit? ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/29 "2018-10-08T11:14:06Z")
How very political of you. It was my mistake thinking Titania was one of the two-color converters. I am editing my post to remove the error. ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/30 "2018-10-08T11:28:04Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#): > > 150 event keys - 7 Garuda, 0 Tacola Taloca. Phew! Finally get him after just 10 more keys. I almost scared it will be as bad as Thursday-Nimue. So here is my new PvP defense team, the Dispersing Storm! ![Screenshot_2018-10-08-18-10-20](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/3/03dca5b4d32873b7190a3d5df0387961a53b4789.png) ---
**Author:** ![Fikda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Fikda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fikda)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/31 "2018-10-08T11:31:13Z")
I find Taloca disappointing and think Sunbird is a much better troop ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/32 "2018-10-08T11:53:41Z")
Depends on the player: Low level, the 3rd trait on Taloca is completely busted compared to almost anything else. Medium level: Taloca is functionally easier to use as ā€œMagicā€ is easier to upgrade than ā€œLife + Magic.ā€ Takes a bit of setup to get the 3x damage, but not everyone has life leveled up to its potency. High level: Sunbird is easier to use, but technically Taloca hits for more damage for now. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/33 "2018-10-08T11:53:56Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Stormsinger - will loop with Giant Spider - but I really donā€™t like the random storm effect, impossible to plan much around. How about: create a storm of the selected mana colour? The random Storm keeps this spell in the ā€œuniversal transformer + some minor extra effectā€ 10 mana cost category with an actually good minor effect (any active storm is likely to generate extra gem matches after a colour conversion settles the board). Significantly better than the extra effects of Alch and Valk for example. A targeted Storm like you suggested would have to make the spell much more mana-costly. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/34 "2018-10-08T12:06:58Z")
Thank you, Iā€™ve heard that song play in my head all morning! šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![Fikda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Fikda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fikda)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/35 "2018-10-08T12:16:31Z")
If both troops are webbed prior to casting who comes out best damage wise,if both troops are near death prior to casting who comes out best,if both troops have a status effect prior to casting who comes out bestā€¦Oh and the mana cost is over 33% higher on Talocaā€¦The 10 damage on 4/5 gems matches is a great trait,but that is about all it has that is of any worth over Sunbird. ---
**Author:** ![polyester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/polyester/32/59766_2.png) [@polyester](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/polyester)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/36 "2018-10-08T14:36:00Z")
What the heck. 250+ Event keys, no Taloca. Iā€™m gonna wait until multiple folks post that they got it before burning a bunch of Glory to try again. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/37 "2018-10-08T14:36:28Z")
Yes, it is in chests. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/38 "2018-10-08T14:37:22Z")
Yes its there. ---
**Author:** ![polyester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/polyester/32/59766_2.png) [@polyester](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/polyester)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/39 "2018-10-08T14:38:22Z")
Dang. Small sample size and all that, but 250 keys for 4 Garudas and zero Taloca just doesnā€™t feel OK. Edit: Hey devs, are you sure the % drop chance for Taloca is right? Ended up burning 350 Event keys, and got 7 Garudas before a single Taloca finally dropped. Iā€™m a professional data analyst - the chances of this happening if theyā€™re weighted equally (and TimeKnight above seeing the same thing) are infinitesimal. ---
**Author:** ![vanyel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanyel/32/32071_2.png) [@vanyel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vanyel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971/40 "2018-10-08T14:45:58Z")
Bad luck is all. I got 7 taloca & 2 garuda out of about 300 keys. Sorry I stole the ones you were supposed to get. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/here-comes-the-rain-again/46971.md?page=3)