# \[HELP\] Troop Questions and More **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [October 1, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145 "2016-10-01T02:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/21 "2016-10-02T01:32:25Z")
Maybe, but don’t be afraid to give it a try. You don’t lose anything except your time if you don’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/22 "2016-10-02T01:33:15Z")
Well, Warlord IV doesn’t even unlock for me until I’ve reached a certain level. I’m playing at the highest level I can, literally, with Warlord I. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/23 "2016-10-02T01:47:53Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > Blue/Purple (shadow hunter works good) > Blue/Brown (behemoth works good) > Blue/Green (druid works good) > Valkyrie (red/yellow) > > You get all six colors, and only Valkyrie uses red and yellow. Her ability generates souls and fills up the blue mana troops. @UKresistance almost advised my Original Blue team; Shadow-Hunter Behemoth Valkyrie Druid Now I know you don’t have these Troops but there is a certain team-building philosophy here that is worth mentioning. When you use a transformer that uses 2 colors and makes a different third color, you try and fill the other three spots with the transformed colour and one of the remaining unused colors. The third position is also statistically the “safest” and is where you should place your key Troop, like a mana transformer/generator ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/24 "2016-10-02T01:51:20Z")
Do you have replacement suggestions for Shadow Hunter and Behemoth? Because, right now, all I have working for me is: Abhorath Valkyrie Giant Spider Tyri It’s not ideal. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/25 "2016-10-02T02:12:37Z")
> [@Vriska](#): > > Do you have replacement suggestions for Shadow Hunter and Behemoth? Because, right now, all I have working for me is: > > Abhorath > Valkyrie > Giant Spider > Tyri > > It’s not ideal. Tyri has one of the highest Attacks so she CAN be used up front, but that wastes her support role of mana denial, so she’s what I call a “contradictory Troop” and use her strictly to farm Maps. As for replacements… I’ll check my book, give me a little bit. Which Legendaries do you have? ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/26 "2016-10-02T02:21:02Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Which Legendaries do you have? Thank you for doing this for me! Legendaries: Abhorath – lv 12, no stats Carnex – lv 1, no stats Crimson Bat – lv 8, no stats Gar’Nok – lv 1, no stats Gorgotha – lv 5, no stats The Dragon Soul – lv 1, no stats The Silent One – lv 1, no stats ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/27 "2016-10-02T02:48:31Z")
> [@Vriska](#): > > Thank you for doing this for me! > > Legendaries: > > Abhorath – lv 12, no stats > Carnex – lv 1, no stats > Crimson Bat – lv 8, no stats > Gar’Nok – lv 1, no stats > Gorgotha – lv 5, no stats > The Dragon Soul – lv 1, no stats > The Silent One – lv 1, no stats Do you have Astral Spirit or Wolf Knight? You can build a decent True Damage team around Crimson Bat. Abhorath Valkyrie Crimson Bat Wolf Knight Lion Banner (Blue +2/Yellow, Green-1) recommended, but Sword Banner (Yellow/Blue) or Banner of Progress (Red/Yellow) can work Abhorath tanks, Valkyrie fills Abhorath (to keep self-healing and increasing Attack) and Crimson Bat (True Damage to all) and Wolf Knight “snipes” the weakened Troops (once Crimson Bat fires Wolf Knight’s bonus damage applies to all enemies). ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/28 "2016-10-02T04:32:53Z")
I’ve got both Astral Spirit and Wolf Knight (neither leveled or statted). Which line-up do you suggest, since I have both of the ones you asked about? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/29 "2016-10-02T04:39:42Z")
Astral Spirit is Yellow/Blue so I decided she would wouldn’t fill often, or at all. Wolf Knight has his Brown Mana unblocked so he can still fill from a cascade if you aren’t matching it yourself. Abhorath Valkyrie Crimson Bat Wolf Knight Is the lineup I’d use. You do not utilize Green, so make that your first color to look at for transforming and only fire Abhorath off if he needs to heal so you don’t block Blue from Crimson Bat unnecessarily ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/30 "2016-10-02T04:46:31Z")
Thank you! I’ll try this line-up! 😄 * * * Update: Abhorath isn’t tanking so well. 😑 I’m trying to work on a quest line in Khetar, but it’s a bit of an uphill slog, so far. He’s getting his butt whupped! ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/31 "2016-10-02T08:46:09Z")
Also note that you can do normal difficulty explores (using valkyrie) without finishing the challenges. That and Arena are the most logical spots to grind for souls to level your main team(s) right now. I fully agree with Talia’s suggested team. For the longer run, if/once you have Gorgotha fully traited, you have the best tank in the game. For that reason I would focus your explores in Drifting Sands, when you do them. Your gold should go to levelling Karakoth, Darkstone, Blighted Lands and Zhul’kari to ten, for the extra Magic stat. And I would advise continuing till you have at least all the attack and life kingdoms levelled to ten as well. ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 8:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/32 "2016-10-02T08:49:27Z")
This is super helpful! I’ll follow your advice. Thank you! 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/33 "2016-10-02T09:05:30Z")
If you are this early in the game and finding you are losing on Warlord IV you simply have to ditch it. Even if you do win you are being slowed down. Go with Hard and win twice or trice as quick. Now you don’t need a tank; an easy to acquire troop (broken spire questline) that you can put up top is Luther. Add in Druid and all you need then is a skull generator but you can make do without. ---
**Author:** ![Vriska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vriska/32/11293_2.png) [@Vriska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vriska)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 9:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/34 "2016-10-02T09:09:54Z")
I can’t play on Warlord IV until I’m much higher in level. I can only play on Warlord I and it’s a bit of a struggle, but it’s not impossible. The returns might be better? Numbers aren’t my friends–which is why I’m asking for help. 🙂 Thank you for the advice! I’ll certainly take it into account! ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/35 "2016-10-02T09:23:37Z")
Personally I think you should go with the hard difficulty. You even said Warlord I is a little bit of a struggle; if you are farming you want to be going into a kingdom questline to pillage. Luther (1 trait) Valkyrie (3 traits) Druid (3 traits) All those characters and traits are easy to obtain. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/36 "2016-10-02T18:29:08Z")
for farming i would say easy or hard mode, -the faster you do one game the more traitstones u will get per time spent and that is also a worthy factor, not the souls alone (while the souls per time you should also reconsider) id only try to do harder difficulties while unlocking the chellenges of high stars the first time for the extra souls to be scaled better (but that is worth to unlock with a proper armor) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/37 "2016-10-04T00:52:26Z")
How’s everything lately @Vriska? Remember, always come to us for advice. More than happy to assist. ---
**Author:** ![polyester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/polyester/32/59766_2.png) [@polyester](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/polyester)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/38 "2016-10-04T10:19:28Z")
Best low-level team by far, at least IMO, is Valkyrie / Alchemist / Banshee / Boar Rider. All easy troops to get, and assuming the enemy doesn’t get a lucky turn and kills one, you can just transform over and over. Boar rider comes in handy to set up the next transform if you don’t have any available. The other team usually doesn’t even get a turn after the first one or two. Plus you get extra gold from Alchemist (especially if you can buy his first trait) and of course souls from Valkyrie. Infinite turns will beat any difficulty and troop combo\*. That team got me through a good chunk of the early game. \*aside from obnoxious combo breakers like fully traited Bone Dragon or Gloom Leaf ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/39 "2016-10-04T10:34:04Z")
Were they long and boring matches? ---
**Author:** ![polyester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/polyester/32/59766_2.png) [@polyester](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/polyester)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145/40 "2016-10-04T13:16:49Z")
Of course. But winning one long and boring match is better than losing ten quick matches. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/help-troop-questions-and-more/13145.md?page=3)