# Haste scrolls need to be evenly distributed in the Tower of Doom

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [June 17, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224 "2020-06-17T03:06:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![tkd117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tkd117/32/52110_2.png) [@tkd117](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/tkd117)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/1 "2020-06-17T03:06:41Z")

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In the Tower of Doom, it’s well known that Luck, Fireball, and Heroism scrolls are guaranteed to appear at a certain rate across a number of floors. Valravens are also supposed to appear by a certain of rooms. These measures are sensible in the interests of fairness to different guilds.

This Tower of Doom, my guild has not found a single Haste scroll in the first 16 floors. I have never seen this happen before. In fact, we found a Heroism scroll before we found a single Haste scroll! While I concede that RNG is RNG and mapping mistakes can occasionally happen, I don’t believe that our level 900+ mappers can have slipped up often enough over 64 rooms to miss all of what should be a reasonable numbers of Haste scrolls. After all, we’ve found Luck/Fireball/Heroism scrolls at the usual rate.

For comparison, two other guilds in our family have found 10 and 6 Haste scrolls, respectively, in the first 16 floors. This variability in Haste scroll drop rates seems unreasonable because Haste scrolls affect the maximum number of rooms that a competent player with a given number of sigils can clear, and in turn the number of Valravens that they can encounter. From this standpoint, I believe that Haste scrolls need to be treated like Valravens, in that **a guild should be able to find X Haste scrolls in Y rooms, for reasonable values of X and Y**.

Here’s what our map looks like so far:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/a/aaebc0bf0f2b403fdd972eaac61c52d88cca7030.png)

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/2 "2020-06-17T03:31:08Z")

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During one of the Q&A streams I asked if haste scrolls would be regulated similar to heroism and luck scrolls. Sirrian said he would look into it.  
God knows how long ago that was. Maybe 2 Q&A ago. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/3 "2020-06-17T05:23:18Z")

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+1

Previous ToD, we had 2 haste scrolls in the first 15 floors. This time around, 8. It makes a big difference in how far up the tower the guild can make it. Would be nice to make it more consistent.

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**Author:** ![FREDDY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/freddy/32/63726_2.png) [@FREDDY](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/FREDDY)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/4 "2020-06-17T05:58:38Z")

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Same we map and confront RNG inconsistency every event. However a quick solution, not likely. And at the risk of getting a bit off topic- the rewards seem sparser too.

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 6:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/5 "2020-06-17T06:54:19Z")

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I’m of the opinion that all scroll types should be normalized for all guilds over at most 12 floor or so increments. The _order_ can and should be random within the set so guilds have to do their own individual scouting, but I don’t know why we go with wild variances on what is available even for the fillery stat point type stuff.

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**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/haste-scrolls-need-to-be-evenly-distributed-in-the-tower-of-doom/64224/6 "2020-06-17T07:35:34Z")

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last ToD we had our first Power scroll arround floor 27-28… also not so many Haste scrolls on the way

this weeks it seems RNG is more generous than last time
