# Has anyone Farmed Traitstones recently on the X1? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [June 8, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301 "2017-06-08T21:12:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/1 "2017-06-08T21:12:11Z")
XBOX ONE Question Has anyone farmed for Traitstones recently for an extended period on the Xbox after this latest patch? Last week I had a low drop rate in Khetar, where I had to do hundreds of Explores for 3 Arcane stones. Today I just needed 1 Forrest Arcane to Trait “Ketras the Bull”. I stopped after 100 and still not a single Arcane. [https://s22.postimg.org/tdgxqtcr5/WIN\_20170608\_16\_00\_30\_Pro.jpg](https://s22.postimg.org/tdgxqtcr5/WIN_20170608_16_00_30_Pro.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/2 "2017-06-08T21:17:41Z")
As you know, I’m on PS4 not X1, but after our conversation last week, I have been keeping a closer eye on things. I picked up 4 arcanes in Khetar in about 35 explores yesterday, so a very good run. Probably just bad luck for you. Just 4 more to get Abby her 3rd trait. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/3 "2017-06-08T21:24:58Z")
I would normally agree. But why would Runic and Celestial also be dropping at a lower rate than normal? For the next 100 I keep extra detail records for my self. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/4 "2017-06-08T21:29:25Z")
I don’t know, but on a cosmic scale, you’ve still got a relatively small sample size there. For what it’s worth, I’ll start keeping detailed numbers myself when I’m grinding explores. Should be quite a bit this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/5 "2017-06-08T21:30:06Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > I picked up 4 arcanes in Khetar in about 35 explores yesterday, That’s a very low sample and only about double the rate so not unreasonable at all. On the X1 last week it must have been 3 stones for 350+ explores or more So I’m around 3 stones for 450+ explores recently ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/6 "2017-06-08T21:53:42Z")
Also ps4 here. I’ve had ebb and flow scenarios when I’ve tried farming. Managed to get a run of bloods and darks (12 total) in \< 100 matches. But now that I need skulls and spirit, I’ve pulled 3 in about 200 matches (all spirit, no skulls). Still get runics fairly common and even hit a celestial. Best I can say is keep at it, though I know that’s not that useful. Just sharing my own experiences. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/7 "2017-06-11T18:01:20Z")
Hey @Strat, I had to do some hard farming as I need 16 Arcane Spirits. So I packed some bombs and set out to mine Khetar until it’s a wasteland. My results ran both ends of the gamut. I got 6 Spirits inside of 50 games. After that things dried up somewhat. Found 2 more (and a Celestial) over the next 150 games after that. Again a small sample but need 8 more so I can let you know how that goes too. Edit: Hmm, just noticed in both cases I was averaging 6 per 50 and then 1 per 50ish. Wouldn’t mind if it holds up for the next batch. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/8 "2017-06-11T21:25:18Z")
I carefully tracked 41 explores today across two kingdoms. Picked up 3 Arcanes, 0 celestials, 6 runics, 10 majors, 22 minors. Seems perfectly normal to me. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/9 "2017-06-12T17:24:32Z")
Guess I’m just lucky. Only did 100 games. Scored 7 arcanes and 3 celestial though again 5 came very quick and the rest were spaced out more. Now I need 6 darks… And 9 venoms ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/10 "2017-06-12T18:31:14Z")
I think your results were almost perfectly in line with expectation. As far as I can tell, the best estimate of expected distribution from large samples collected by players is: Minor 49%, Major 24%, Runic 18%, Arcane 6%, Celestial 3% (with minor, major and runic a coin toss to determine color after the rarity is selected). ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/11 "2017-06-13T06:48:41Z")
Well just to add that I’m not always so lucky. Farmed for a couple of hours and only scored 2. Oh well, it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/has-anyone-farmed-traitstones-recently-on-the-x1/25301/12 "2017-06-13T14:03:29Z")
It still seems to me that all the PS4 players posting above are getting normal Explore results. And its only the **XBOX ONE** players that are getting ~2% (1:50) Arcane drops same rate. I really wanted to see if anyone on the **XBOX ONE** had done a few hundred of Explores recently and was getting the around 9% Runic, 2% Arcane in Explore. I know that hundreds are a small sample but buy combining ALL three “higher” Traitstones together and with multiple players a bug might be able to be shown. Q. What are the odds of multiple **XBOX ONE** players getting 9% Runic 2% Arcane 1% Celestial, the _exact_ same drop rate as non-explore?