# Hard time finding high vp battles **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [April 19, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577 "2026-04-19T00:10:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/1 "2026-04-19T00:10:45Z")
Doesnt matter the kingdom. I am finding sub 50 often very rarely 80 or higher. Why? Seems intentional to drain gems ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/2 "2026-04-19T00:37:54Z")
I have wasted so many gems just to find higher level battles… ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/3 "2026-04-19T01:05:36Z")
Why are you wasting gems? If you really want high VP battles, you can just start any battle and quit. Takes about 5 seconds. Much cheaper than wasting gems. Is there some reason you’d prefer spending gems? ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/4 "2026-04-19T01:11:09Z")
The high-VP matches simply “aren’t there” anymore. The pool of potential opponents has simply become too diluted with all the zombie accounts populating things now. ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 1:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/5 "2026-04-19T01:16:33Z")
…how did i never realize this. Never thought of it. ---
**Author:** ![edwina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@edwina](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/edwina)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/6 "2026-04-19T03:16:27Z")
Correct me if I am wrong, I am assuming that you are spending gems for re-rolls is because you are using the victory talismans and wanting to skip through the hassle of equipping/removing talismans (which I agree is tedious). If that’s the case, I do hope that the talismans in PvP can be reworked to be the same as the trinkets in underspire, where it is only used in a single fight and unequipped automatically (since you get a lot of low VP dummy fights than high VP fights). Even better, just add a toggle on/off equipped button next to the talismans overview. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/7 "2026-04-19T03:49:39Z")
The amount of VP you earn is mostly determined by the difference in Hero levels between both accounts. As you get a higher Hero level, it becomes harder and harder to find battles with more VP. I’m at such a high level, there is only **one** account, yes one! that gives me more than 50 VP per fight, so most fights are only about 30+ to 40+ VP each, wasting **a lot** of time. The amount of VP should have been determined by Team Score, **not** by Hero level. Your Hero’s level is a measure of time that you have played, not necessarily a measure of your skill imo. ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/8 "2026-04-19T04:00:58Z")
…it still does that!? I figured theyd have fixed such a punishment to high level players by now. @Jeto ? ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 5:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/9 "2026-04-19T05:08:34Z")
> [@Darkborne](#): > > The amount of VP should have been determined by Team Score The amount should be fixed, IMO, not variable by enemy score. There should be an easy, medium and hard option, giving 30, 60 and 90 VP. But the enemy chosen in each slot should be based on team score. So, like when you’re a low level, it finds lower team scores, and when you get to high levels, it should pick high team scores. But importantly, if you get a really high level, it would still just pick the highest level options, not lower the VP. Even if it had to scale the enemy team up, like giving them small stat boosts, or something, to keep it fair, the amount of VP should be fixed. The current system is just bad, and unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Snarko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Snarko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snarko)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 11:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/10 "2026-04-19T11:51:47Z")
> [@Darkborne](#): > > The amount of VP should have been determined by Team Score, **not** by Hero level. Your Hero’s level is a measure of time that you have played, not necessarily a measure of your skill imo. Careful what you wish for. All those placeholder accounts the game throw at us have really low team scores. Low even when compared to their low levels. If they stay as frequent as they are and team score decide VP earned then VP earned will likely drop. For everyone. You would still only get more than 50 VP from anyone with a higher team score than you. I’m guessing there’s not many of those either. I think the suggestion from Zuul-Emo above would be a better solution. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/11 "2026-04-19T12:33:09Z")
The main problem is this–trying to get back Great General **every** PvP season is disrespectful and unnecessary. We have to log in and play PvP battles every day to keep up with Season goals anyway, so it makes no sense. If alliance ranks are going to continue to get reset every season, cut those requirements by half at least. 800,000 VP is beyond ridiculous and everyone gets stressed out or just gives up. And I don’t trust the developers to balance VP like how Zuul-Emo suggested and just want them to adjust the formula so that we get 90 VP when we are fighting people with a team score of 20,000+. Leave those easier, 1 trophy fights for the players that don’t care about this. Determining VP by your own Hero Level was a **huge** mistake, and I’m tired of being punished for it. Take Hero level out of the equation. ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/12 "2026-04-19T13:37:27Z")
> [@Darkborne](#): > > And I don’t trust the developers to balance VP like how Zuul-Emo suggested Oh, I’m with you there. Just pointing out how it SHOULD be done. Sadly, I doubt it will be changed to a decent system, or that they’d achieve what we want if they tried. > [@Darkborne](#): > > The main problem is this–trying to get back Great General **every** PvP season is disrespectful and unnecessary. We have to log in and play PvP battles every day to keep up with Season goals anyway, so it makes no sense. If alliance ranks are going to continue to get reset every season, cut those requirements by half at least. 800,000 VP is beyond ridiculous and everyone gets stressed out or just gives up. Agreed. I would have bust my behind and gotten to Great General the first season if it had been a permanent thing, but having to get there every season isn’t worth it, and I never bothered. I still climb high on the ranks, but not that high. And it’s disrespectful of them to expect people to do so, like you say. Especially when those who are most likely to be able to try are also being punished by getting less VP from their battles. ---
**Author:** ![Risa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@Risa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Risa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/13 "2026-04-19T18:16:55Z")
This problem may also be enlarged by the fact that everyone who want golden marks has joined purple alliance, therefore leaving few high level players in other alliances. This in turn makes all players in purple alliance hard to find high level opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Cheersdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cheersdude](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cheersdude)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/14 "2026-04-19T19:33:28Z")
Same iv done great general once. Then realised its 5 extra gold marks per day. 🤣🤣🤣. I mean seriously add a zero. Never gonna do it again for 5 a day. Im not a muppet. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/15 "2026-04-19T20:17:00Z")
But how would they determine higher VP battles without using…something? If you fight teams with a higher score, you would get more VP. _(And quite honestly just make the minimum 50 and the maximum 90)_. The Hero level formula clearly does not work. I don’t know what formula the developers are using to determine the value of VP battles (I know that it’s similar to Guild War battle scores). But honestly–please give us the formula, and we could probably figure out something better. ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/16 "2026-04-19T23:23:58Z")
It took 18 retreats to find a 90 vp battle. Would have been 18 gems had i refreshed. On purple which is a popular zone @jeto care to comment on why high level players are punished with fewer high vp battles? This had gone on long enough ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/17 "2026-04-19T23:26:09Z")
I dont get it. Its easy. Like you said. Fixed vp for the 3. Easy medium hard. Hard being 90 ---
**Author:** ![Born2beagator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Born2beagator](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Born2beagator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/18 "2026-04-21T23:17:10Z")
![1000011374](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/5/f57267317e306d6651a28de546130be699eee162.jpeg) Look at this junk. @Jeto please respond as to why high level players are being punished with more work for vp. Oh and this doesnt get gems out of me. I simple retreat. Im up to 50 battles retreated in two days with only 16 actually played. I retreated every sub 90 vp battles. So in 66 battles only 16 have been 90 vp for me ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 1:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/19 "2026-04-22T01:30:56Z")
What’s your level?I’m 2k and barely have seen 90 this year ---
**Author:** ![Cheersdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cheersdude](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cheersdude)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 1:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577/20 "2026-04-22T01:39:36Z")
Im nearly level 1800. And if i do frenzy. 90 percent are over 90 vp. And i slways do the easy 1 trophy option. So are you guys. Looking for a problem. Were there isnt 1. And choosing non frenzy on purpose. Even tho your high level like me. And can 2 shot frenzy. Ps. I can see hes chosen frenzy. Are you guys getting such low vp in every frenzy region. Every day. Pps. Old pvp was better. Low middle high. Not random points. They could easily. Just make it. 30,50,70. Points. No matter level of teams or heros. They just cba. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/hard-time-finding-high-vp-battles/89577.md?page=2)