# GW Dead Guilds and Moving Brackets **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [November 18, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gw-dead-guilds-and-moving-brackets/67188 "2020-11-18T18:35:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 22
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gw-dead-guilds-and-moving-brackets/67188/22 "2020-11-20T03:49:06Z")
> [@blindnighto](#): > > assuming @ChunkyMono is correct and guilds are auto-registered when they claim seals, it confirms why we won’t have automatic seal collection anytime soon (unless they either make GW registration a separate manual task or the above is coincidental rather than causal). > > As for my opinion, if GW registration remains automatic The devs have said several times that GW registration has to be done manually, and isn’t automatic. I’d be interested to see what happens if someone was in a guild by themselves and collected Seals, but otherwise I’d probably operate under the assumption that this isn’t the case, as best practice for this discussion with the devs. That being said, GW registration is _ **very** _ easy, you can pretty much do it accidentally if you’re just looking around seeing what all the buttons do, and you can’t ‘un-register’ if you decide you don’t want to participate – not that there would be much incentive not to. There’s also a persistent and colourful(, slightly bugged) ‘Register Now’ message on the GW panel for the whole three weeks in-between. I’m really not surprised that guilds register but don’t participate. You see this all the time with other, real-life, free-to-register events, and heck I sign up for webinars that I’m unsure I’ll be able to make, sometimes just to secure the recording in case I want to watch it later. IN CASE (this should hopefully help speak to the psychological aspect of this issue for the devs). - Obviously the issue is that these non-commital guilds have started (very unfair) or once been higher up in the rankings due to previous activity (potentially also unfair anyway due to starting higher), but don’t move down very quickly at all. - It seems to me like this ‘Register Now’/‘Registered’ message and new, little notifications (has anyone else noticed these?) – _“[Guild name] needs your help to win today’s Guild War!”_ (will have to double-check for exact) – are subtle, little strategies they’ve introduced to try to remind some of these more casual players to play those battles in response to these threads about a lack of activity/competition in some GW brackets - I could have also sworn that a few GWs ago, my guild experienced a once-off, disproportionate Bracket jump. I tend not to be too bothered to look into the records (as action on the GW front is pretty limited), but might have to look into that… I’m not necessarily against marketing GW as a more ‘conpetitive, optional’ mode now that World Events run concurrently, similarly to what Slypenslyde suggested here: > [@There's something needs to be changed in Guild Wars brackets](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/theres-something-needs-to-be-changed-in-guild-wars-brackets/63276/7): > > I’ve always felt the best bar would be a tangible cost for registration, not player minimums. > > Every time minimums are brought up, a lot of people complain their guild is just a bunch of friends or family members and they think it’d be dumb if they were excluded from a game mode due to that. They have a point. The rewards for “just being in a bracket at all” aren’t much worse than the rewards for “winning your bracket” for 99% of players. > > So I think GW as we know it is a good mode for some game that’s not Gems of War. It only works as-is if _every_ participating guild is competitive. It’d be better if a World Event ran in _conjunction_ with GW. I think if they did that _and_ removed rewards for being low in your bracket, it’d discourage most casual guilds from bothering. More so if a cost was attached to registration, say a 5m gold entry fee per guild. That’s not a lot at all for a competitive 30-member guild, but a 6-person family guild won’t see the benefit. But they wouldn’t feel like they were “losing rewards” if there was a concurrent event running and GW was known as “only worth it if you’re competitive”. This could be combined with better rewards for the non-1% – bigger risk, since you’re paying for entry, better rewards. Otherwise, increasingly larger Bracket sizes, more aggressive Bracket mobility (not just with Guilds that score 0 but also ones that score say 10,000 vs a range of 600,000 to 1,300,000 for the week, but only move down 1-2 Brackets or potentially even stay there), or a combination of the two all seem like pretty good and incremental steps to take. --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gw-dead-guilds-and-moving-brackets/67188)._