# Guild Wars - Sneak Peek Wrap Up

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [March 27, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806 "2017-03-27T05:47:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/21 "2017-03-27T06:58:23Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> just going into lockdown here for weekly event changeover.

Just logging in now to make it a little worse for you 😃

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/22 "2017-03-27T07:00:09Z")

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I still can’t even log in at all. I think it’s on my side, but i’m out of options. 😀

Anyways, Guild Wars yeah!

I’m still on-topic.

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**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/24 "2017-03-27T07:14:41Z")

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(Before brackets)

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**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/25 "2017-03-27T07:19:11Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/0/10431f6e31a59827caed5acd70aca2263db9ee9a.png) Come at me trolls! I’ve got a mythic kraken to slap you lousy landlubbers with

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**Author:** ![GemsCollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/26 "2017-03-27T07:39:23Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> you’ll still receive a minor reward of 50% XP for the next 24 hours, plus 50 Guild Seals (which do count against your cap)

Just a little clarification. In the original Sneak Peek it wasn’t about to count against the cap - is there a typo above or have you changed your mind about it?

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**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/27 "2017-03-27T07:42:08Z")

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Thanks for daily defense teams @Sirrian. Any chance we could get more team slots and dedicated team slots between PvP invade and single player, when you update the code to support the daily defense teams?

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/28 "2017-03-27T07:44:37Z")

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Can we get an answer about sentinel cost? Has that been changed or not? @Sirrian

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**Author:** ![Zelith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelith/32/21457_2.png) [@Zelith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelith)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/29 "2017-03-27T07:50:01Z")

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I understand people wanted brackets to level out the opposing difficulty, but I was under the impression it was much more for distributing the rewards. Based on info from previous previews this means that no matter how well you do your guild’s reward for the week is effectively fixed at the start of the week. In your own example Sparkle Ponies will finish in the 21-50 bracket for rewards regardless of their performance. You say you can move up or down multiple brackets but don’t want to tell us the how so we can’t game it… just how far a jump is possible? If a guild is sorted in at 1000 is the quest to 400 even feasible? That’s 60 bracket jumps to see a change in rewards.

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**Author:** ![Mekkalyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mekkalyn/32/21868_2.png) [@Mekkalyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mekkalyn)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/30 "2017-03-27T08:01:03Z")

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I don’t understand what the point of these brackets are. It doesn’t change anything. You’re still basically competing for the top prize which will never be achievable for the average guild.

There should be something for the first place of every bracket. It could be even 20-50 gems only and at least it’s SOMETHING. I highly doubt there will be many guilds that would exploit for that tiny of a reward when they’d want to push forward for the big rewards. Just literally any little tiny thing that gives you a goal to top yOur bracket as a midguild

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**Author:** ![Royalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/royalty/32/1683_2.png) [@Royalty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Royalty)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/31 "2017-03-27T08:08:18Z")

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@Sirrian,

I’m missing the exact workings of the scoring system.

So far we know

- Winning matches earns you a base amount of points based on the rank of the opponent (Paragon earns you the most).
- Guild Guardian level influences those points.
- Chosen attack team influences those points.
- But didn’t you mention in Sneak Peak II, that you would earn more points for _how well_ you did win? I haven’t read anything about it.

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/32 "2017-03-27T08:13:39Z")

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At this point I think we just gotta accept that the team wants to move forward with this.

Sirrian said in the OP that it’s coming soon, so no more time to make changes I assume. After all the changes they have made, and time spent, I can understand why they want to get it out. 😄

And Sirrian said he tried but couldn’t make rewards work. Just gotta go with the flow.

(Not to be read with anything other than a calm tone) 😅

But i’m bummed about it as well.

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**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/33 "2017-03-27T08:13:46Z")

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Thanks for this awesome update @Sirrian!!!

Regarding brackets:

1. Yes, the majority suggested them to better distribute rewards, but…
2. Dev’s originally claimed brackets were too hard too implement, so…
3. This is a victory, the hard part is done and…
4. Once GW rolls out, if rewards are still an issue, I trust the dev’s will consider modifications.

I am very excited about this!!! 😉

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/34 "2017-03-27T08:15:32Z")

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if you consider brackets a matchmaking mechanic, not actual reward distribution mechanic then it makes much more sense

i still wonder will the rewards be worth it more then pre-wrap up (really hope so 🙂 )

also i hope that maybe after a while a change can be made in bonus stat points distribution @Sirrian, i think it would **increase the amount of sentinel purchases a lot** and give much more fun to the players too 😉

> [@Guild Wars - Sneak Peek VI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-vi/21506/485):
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> perhaps you would like rewerse stat points distribution for guild war attacking, but keep the current distribution for defending?

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/35 "2017-03-27T08:18:10Z")

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> [@Royalty](#):
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> I’m missing the exact workings of the scoring system.

Points are pretty straightforward… everything you mentioned, PLUS a teeny tiny bonus for how many troops you have left after winning. 4 is worth more than 1, obviously! This is not based on how many troops you had DIE, just how many you have LEFT (so a summoner could be handy to squeeze out the last few points)

> [@DonBoba](#):
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> Can we get an answer about sentinel cost? Has that been changed or not?

No it hasn’t.

> [@PGSundling](#):
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> Any chance we could get more team slots and dedicated team slots between PvP invade and single player

We’re investigating that. I’m not certain it will be ready for the 3.0 release, but more slots are on the way.

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/36 "2017-03-27T08:23:35Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> Can we get an answer about sentinel cost? Has that been changed or not?
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> No it hasn’

Boba sad ☹

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**Author:** ![GemsCollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 9:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/37 "2017-03-27T09:08:03Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> so a summoner could be handy to squeeze out the last few points

When we’re at summons:  
we’ll get bonus points for using troops of specific colour. Do I understand correctly that summoned troops colour isn’t important in that regard?

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/38 "2017-03-27T09:17:12Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> Points are pretty straightforward… everything you mentioned, PLUS a teeny tiny bonus for how many troops you have left after winning. 4 is worth more than 1, obviously! This is not based on how many troops you had DIE, just how many you have LEFT (so a summoner could be handy to squeeze out the last few points)

Ugh, drag out victory for bonus points, I was kind of dreading that. Hope we don’t end up also getting a tiny bonus for healing troops back to full, restoring their armor, removing all negative buffs, applying positive buffs, rearranging them by alphabetical order and other shenanigans.

This does provide a rather strong incentive to put as many devour/kill troops as possible into your defense team. It’s not going to win most time anyway, RNG will make your opponents victory worth less quite often though.

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/39 "2017-03-27T10:13:01Z")

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i think quite opposite:

> [@Sirrian](#):
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> This is not **based on** how many troops you had DIE, just **how many you have LEFT**

> [@Guild Wars - Sneak Peek III](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-iii/20606/1):
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> Of course you can score bonus points of top these amounts too (remember… using the correct color in the correct WAR will give you some bonus score)

it says some points are given based on how many troops you have left when the fight finishes, **- if -** taking these troops colors in consideration then you need to have summoned troop be of the needed color

im not sure, perhaps the colors count on the start of battle while another bonus poins go for the troops that stay after battle - but somehow is think unlikely scenario, will see what devs say 🙂

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**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/40 "2017-03-27T10:14:44Z")

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> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> Ugh, drag out victory for bonus points,

i think just the troops presence and color is cool enough to have

like an extra skill/luck requirement will make the wars more intense and random - look - the top guilds will have a chance to still fail, thats not a bad thing 😉

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**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-sneak-peek-wrap-up/21806/41 "2017-03-27T10:18:40Z")

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Thanks again @Sirrian & co for listening and reacting to your community feedback, can’t wait to play those guild wars 🙂

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