# Guild Wars, Point-Scoring for Battles, and You!

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [August 1, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179 "2017-08-01T05:31:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/288 "2017-08-01T22:34:25Z")

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@Shiratori  
That’s exactly how I feel. Not sure how much longer I will be around.

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/289 "2017-08-01T22:35:39Z")

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> [@Droski](#):
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> Losses/troop losses should carry more weight in the new gw algebra equation.

I don’t know if I necessarily agree with that. There are viable strategies that “good players” can use that deliberately sacrifice a troop or allow one to be killed. Just because the old system overemphasized the importance of ending the battle with 4 troops doesn’t mean that the new system should do the same.

For example, if I used a Black Beast to intentionally devour a bunch of my own troops to make an unstoppable juggernaut with 10 times the starting stats of my starting lineup, that isn’t the same as just barely surviving with my last troop.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/290 "2017-08-01T22:37:31Z")

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> [@Dan\_ozzzy189](#):
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> One his video yesterday mate

Since @Dan\_ozzzy189 doesn’t want to answer i invite everyone to see for themselves…

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/6/86d95a7dffe5ac725e4ca2ca191310d605b4dc8f.jpeg "🔥 Gems of War Stream: Testing New Dwarves 🔥") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTggWn3iFY)

Scroll to 53:30 and listen to what @Tacet says and tell me if it was represented accurately

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**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/291 "2017-08-01T22:40:32Z")

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Meanwhile, original post got ninja-edited… I wonder if it changed in the game as well.

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/292 "2017-08-01T22:40:38Z")

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That’s because he is sleeping.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/293 "2017-08-01T22:41:15Z")

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U talking to me @death?

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/294 "2017-08-01T22:42:55Z")

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Yeah mate, pretty sure he be sleeping.

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/295 "2017-08-01T22:43:11Z")

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> [@ZooKeeper](#):
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> original post got ninja-edited

Can you clarify what got edited? I don’t have a photographic memory, and it looks like the last edit was about 5 hours ago, when Sirrian _should_ be sleeping.

Edit: Is it that the efficiency formulas now say “Min” instead of “max”?

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/296 "2017-08-01T22:43:39Z")

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He posted 20 minutes ago brudda and i responded 4 minutes later

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/297 "2017-08-01T22:44:43Z")

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Sorry bro, I just woke up. I skimmed through the thread lol.  
My bad.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/298 "2017-08-01T22:45:07Z")

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Its all good brudda

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**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/299 "2017-08-01T22:45:10Z")

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Min instead of Max in efficiency formula.

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/300 "2017-08-01T22:46:22Z")

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I saw that while you were typing. I guess my memory is better than I realized.

The bigger question is: was that just a typo in the forum post, or was it also in the server code?

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/301 "2017-08-01T22:47:42Z")

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That my friend os a question for @Sirrian

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**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/302 "2017-08-01T22:49:51Z")

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My guess is the server code too cause how else could 0 mana gaining opponents cause the score to be lower than when they had a turn and got a little

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/303 "2017-08-01T22:52:15Z")

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Fair enough. Hopefully the fix came soon enough that the effect doesn’t significantly alter any guild’s results for the week. In any case, someone was up well past their bedtime working on this.

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**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/304 "2017-08-01T22:56:05Z")

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What a shame. Was going to try an infinite war sphinx loop tomorrow since we don’t have wisp.

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**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/305 "2017-08-01T23:20:59Z")

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I think the bigger question is why was it done ninja style rather than with a proper post saying “whoops”. Are we supposed to be constantly re-reading dev posts now in case they change them on us? Lack of transparency is one thing, providing false information and then sneaking in changes is another. I’m stunned…

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**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/306 "2017-08-01T23:35:27Z")

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I want to know what “Great” player pissed in @Sirrian morning coffee. 😇 😂

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**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/307 "2017-08-01T23:37:07Z")

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So why make insta kills useless for attack?

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