# Guild Wars, Point-Scoring for Battles, and You! **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [August 1, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179 "2017-08-01T05:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![vanyel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanyel/32/32071_2.png) [@vanyel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vanyel)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/185 "2017-08-01T17:09:49Z")
No, they’re saying good players tend to be more efficient and use fewer actions to win, which is true. Time & speed of play isn’t a factor. ---
**Author:** ![psydotogist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/psydotogist/32/12747_2.png) [@psydotogist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/psydotogist)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/186 "2017-08-01T17:14:08Z")
So I can lower my opponent points by setting a defense team with level 1 troops? Because it will lower the enemy total damage. 4X Astral Spirits / Sprit Foxes as defense already lower the points with the Empowered (lowering the mana efficiency) and True damage (lowering the damage efficiency) Or you know. Put in Elspeth or Sacrifice as my defense to kill my own troops. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/187 "2017-08-01T17:29:29Z")
I almost think this week should be a strictly trial run where all guilds should get the same rewards regardless of rank so we can help work out the kinks. Obviously every guild would stay in their current bracket as well. ---
**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/188 "2017-08-01T17:49:51Z")
does anyone figured out how mana efficiency and damage efficiency works? is using troops with huge mana cost better than low mana cost? does constant refilling+using mana helps? does agile/skin/armor trait affect damage efficiency? does using status effect like poison/burn shows i’m bad at dealing damage? is using gard loop team gets you the best score? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/189 "2017-08-01T17:55:23Z")
The problem is they changed too many thing at the same time and create many problems they should just change 1 thing and see how it work if it fine then add another thing and keep going that way it is more easy to find where is the bug or problem ---
**Author:** ![kynetarse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kynetarse/32/24815_2.png) [@kynetarse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kynetarse)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/190 "2017-08-01T17:58:09Z")
> [@mitamata](#): > > ``` > MANA_BONUS = Max(4, MyTotalMana/EnemyTotalMana) * C% > > ``` > > This feels soooo very broken. If I collect 200 mana and don’t let the enemy get any, I get a bonus of 4 \* C%. If I collect 200 mana and let the enemy take a single 3 match, I get a bonus of 66 \* C%? Ummm, that would be awful. > > Also, no upper limit? That’s horrible, it encourages looping teams and lets people farm matches for points by keeping them going a long time. > > I really hope either the formula there is written wrong or it will be severely tweaked real soon. Yeah, that’s a mess. Your post needs more attention. ---
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/191 "2017-08-01T18:00:24Z")
- All fights 300pts - Counting only the 27 best scores of the guild - Obligation to set up a defense made with 4 troops of the colour of the day. Imo that was the 3 only changes that needed to be made. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/192 "2017-08-01T18:25:25Z")
There were two weeks with no GW and many people making suggestions for changes… Changes were made to try and make GW “more fair” Now predominantly the same people who wanted changes are pissed about the changes that were made… Why? What needs to be done to make everyone happy? Nobody agrees with what i would do so making me happy is off the table so… How should GW be changed that wpuld make everyone happy? Automatic win with max score and a pb&j to boot… People would still complain that they wanted grape jelly and got strawberry ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/193 "2017-08-01T18:30:15Z")
You’re really not taking on board what the problem is are you? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/194 "2017-08-01T18:31:11Z")
Its not fair to kick a fallen man that is laying helplessly on the ground… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/195 "2017-08-01T18:32:56Z")
Yo maybe you don’t care but some people like me like to know exactly the rules when they start a game. You ok with the changes fine but stop acting like your solution is the best cause it’s clearly not ---
**Author:** ![Clark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clark/32/29631_2.png) [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/196 "2017-08-01T18:33:44Z")
Don’t try to talk sense to him @Rickygervais, he is a troll and this is all he does. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/197 "2017-08-01T18:40:42Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Im sure there are some ppl in this thread who are gonna have the same reaction to me they always do “vangor you are stupid and a troll and you dont belong here! Your opinions dont matter so go away!” Lol took a little longer than i expected but i called it huh? > [@Guild Wars, Point-Scoring for Battles, and You!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/196): > > Don’t try to talk sense to him @Rickygervais, he is a troll and this is all he does. Why am i a troll? Because i think the outrage being expressed here is silly and unnecessary? Or because i habe a different opinion than you? I thought namecalling was against the rules but apparently not if the target is vangor… Then it is fair game So i guess i should just go away now? I am not welcome here… Maybe i shouldnt be allowed to play GoW anymore… By all means continue to call me names! I absolutely love it! I will gladly be the “bad guy” ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/198 "2017-08-01T18:43:22Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > So i guess i should just go away now? I am not welcome here… Maybe i shouldnt be allowed to play GoW anymore… Please don’t go, we want you to stay We begging you please, please don’t leave here We don’t want you to hate; For all the hurt that you feel, The world is just illusion, trying to change you ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/199 "2017-08-01T18:44:54Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > You ok with the changes fine but stop acting like your solution is the best cause it’s clearly not For the record i was one of the few who didnt want any changesbto the points system and everyone said i was too stupid to understand and i was a troll… Now because i am jot outraged at the changes that i didnt even want i am stupid and a troll so no matter what i am stupid and a troll so it seems that i am the “bad guy” as long as i share my opinion… And btw you dont even know what my solution is so how can you say its not better… Because i am stupid and a troll? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/200 "2017-08-01T18:57:36Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Because i am stupid and a troll? First i never called you that and what i mean is your attitude really not helping to improve GW at all, you just say i told you and now it happened so just shut up. But we are all here to give our feedback and improve the game. Every feedback are welcome even if you disagre with them that doesn’t mean they are not good and dev shouldn’t listen to them. So as i say you like the changes, fine but some don’t like them and their are in their right to express their opinions ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/201 "2017-08-01T19:06:36Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > So as i say you like the changes, fine but some don’t like them and their are in their right to express their opinions Ok but we stumbled on my biggest beef with these boards… When GW went off line and the devs asked for change suggestions i didnt like many of them… Did i have a right to express my opinions? No i was called, as i said, too stupid to understand and i was nothing but a troll. In all fairness not by you specifically that i can remember but by several of the very people posting on this thread… So now that the changes have been made and people are angry my opinion still is not welcome so how am i to take that? Everyone else has a right to express an opinion but i am not because if i do i get called names… I was already called a troll on this thread and i can direct you to many more where it has happened All because i dont agree with everyone all the time ---
**Author:** ![EmsDad15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emsdad15/32/31654_2.png) [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/202 "2017-08-01T19:11:47Z")
So I know stuff is perceived differently. So this is what I’m hearing. I have not heard anything about rules. When you all are talking about rules …we wanna know the rules we wanna know the rules…I hear…May you please tell me the precise way to get maximum points out of the formula. And then from what I can tell there isn’t one. But I don’t know crap. As far as a true gamer I’m at the bottom of the totem. But it sounds like play style has a lot to do with this. I just wanna play GW. ---
**Author:** ![Zippity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zippity/32/20287_2.png) [@Zippity](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zippity)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/203 "2017-08-01T19:15:41Z")
> [@peterix](#): > > Because it’s incomplete. > > … You don’t know the numbers. It’s like telling people how to make an ice cream. By telling them you need ingredients. But never telling you how much of them do you need to mix together. You will never be able to make a good one. Cooking is great like that. The first person to make ice cream didn’t have a recipe. They tried a couple different ways until they got it right. Also, not every ice cream recipe is the same, but they all can be tasty. Let GW be liking cooking. We don’t know the final recipes yet, but over time we will play around with it and figure out what works. ---
**Author:** ![Trajic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/trajic/32/20447_2.png) [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179/204 "2017-08-01T19:29:29Z")
If I find a recipe, accidentally or by experiments - and keep making meals far better than any of those which community does - and get rewards for it… … Will you be okay with it? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179.md?page=9) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-point-scoring-for-battles-and-you/28179.md?page=11)