# Guild Wars Going Forward **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [March 21, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620 "2024-03-21T00:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nvidia100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Nvidia100](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nvidia100)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/62 "2024-03-22T05:47:53Z")
The last place guild you are talking about was never last. They just had not done battles yet ---
**Author:** ![aluoaniki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@aluoaniki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aluoaniki)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/63 "2024-03-22T06:09:10Z")
I don’t ask much, cancel Guild War, easy as that. ---
**Author:** ![Lerena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lerena/32/99960_2.png) [@Lerena](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lerena)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/64 "2024-03-22T06:21:28Z")
What did you love about Guild Wars? - Nothing, but I have a competitive personality, so I played it just to help my guild. Granted, with that said, I wanted to perform well. I did my best to win whenever I could, because hate it or not, I play to win. Competition isn’t fun if you aren’t doing your best. Unfortunately, I missed out on the tips and tricks for actually being competitive in Guild Wars or what used to be Guild Wars. Those days seem to have passed now. - With all guild events, I prioritize helping my guild over enjoyment of the mode. See Journey for an example. Guild Wars was at least better than Journey. What new features would you like to see? - Better rewards. Guilds in lower brackets should be rewarded for participating as well. In terms of rewards, I’d like to see deeds, books, dragonite, etc. Since I fully expect the new Guild Wars to have a shop for some reason, perhaps these rewards are already being considered. How often would you like Guild Wars to run? - I’m not the biggest fan of the mode. I believe once a month is reasonable though and there are players that play Gems of War for this mode specifically. Seeing your favorite mode once a month is fair, but I have no idea if players will love what Guild Wars is turning into. We still have no idea what’s planned and recent changes have been justifiably criticized. - Please be careful with how you change this mode. Even with my feelings about Guild Wars taken into consideration, I’m worried it’ll be worse when it returns and that’s not something anyone wants to see when they’re waiting for it to come back. ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/65 "2024-03-22T11:55:34Z")
Guys, the questions are not for those who don’t (want to) play GWs. I don’t like hot/spicy food but don’t run around saying it should be eliminated from existence. I just don’t eat it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/66 "2024-03-22T11:56:48Z")
Actually the people that dont want it back should have a voice too. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/67 "2024-03-22T12:04:20Z")
Should all modes that some people don’t like be eliminated? You know that we wouldn’t have a game then, right? Actually, asking for something you can just opt to not play to be eliminated for everyone else is extremely selfish. Sorry. And imagine how tedious it is for the people to sort through all the comments of “I don’t like it, I want it gone for everyone. Harumph!” to find actual constructive posts. Make as many threads about how you don’t want to play GWs as you like and I promise I’m absolutely fine with it. This thread isn’t supposed to be for that. ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/68 "2024-03-22T12:13:00Z")
Sure Here’s my list of events I don’t want… Arena Raid Invasion Journey Tower of Doom Dungeon Underspire World Event Class Events Factions (only new kingdom) Vault Legends Reborn Campaign Not necessarily events; Trophies Gold Souls Glory Diamonds Cursed Runes Treasure Maps Vault Keys Any other collectible resource What I need Nothing unless it helps in guild wars. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/69 "2024-03-22T12:24:43Z")
People who dont like guild wars are going to post on the official guild wars thread thats gotten attention and theres nothing you can do about it. Sorry. If kafka asks us to stop fine, but i _really_ don’t care if the “no more guild wars” crowd upsets you ---
**Author:** ![gow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@gow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gow)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/70 "2024-03-22T12:28:15Z")
As some have stated above, this is a thread about suggestions for the new GW not for your haters to say please remove it. Ofc you can voice your opinions but please don’t use this thread so that good feedback won’t get buried in useless comments. I would like the old format back with the same 24 unique defense troops for bonus points and the color restrictions. Some people complain that the defense should also be restricted by the same colors but I think it would be really unfair. We all know we don’t have a real PvP and AI controls the moves. So attacking teams already have a huge advantage. Besides that the attacker team also makes the first move that’s also a huge advantage. To make it more balanced, we shouldn’t restrict defense teams more than the 24 unique troops. Once a month is perfect. No more no less than that. I don’t mind if someone can only play on the weekend. Maybe that’s the only time they can concentrate because winning GW is sometimes nerve wrecking. I usually finish each day’s battles on that day because even thinking about running 30 GW battles in one sitting is scary. To be honest, just bring back the old format and we will be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/71 "2024-03-22T12:31:03Z")
People who dislike it arent spamming it. But no they should not be discounted. My CC is this: If it comes back defenses should be color limited as well. That would break a lot of the teams i hated facing. I.E. remove a lot of the power from tome teams And of course up the rewards because guild wars as it is was worthless ---
**Author:** ![Dwuemka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dwuemka/32/67058_2.png) [@Dwuemka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dwuemka)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/72 "2024-03-22T12:36:10Z")
> [@Sylwani](#): > > If it comes back defenses should be color limited as well. That would break a lot of the teams i hated facing. I.E. remove a lot of the power from tome teams That would only work if the defense teams were set to be a different colour than the attack colour. Otherwise this changes nothing, dooomed tomes are reliant on attack team being its own colour. If any lesson should be learned from the current PvP mess and taken over to create a better GW - is that the stricter/narrower the restriction, the fewer teams are actually viable and are effectively in use. So instead of fighting 3-4 nearly identical teams + 1-2 different ones a day, we would fight 5 nearly identical teams every single day. And that people naturally gravitate towards the strongest and most reliable combination possible, given the rules they are given. So adding more restrictions will make the situation worse, not better. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/73 "2024-03-22T12:40:02Z")
What makes tomes so ridiculous are the empowered generators. Limiting colors would break those no? But yeah opposite colors for defense would break tomes entirely. Im ok with that. Tomes were my biggest complaint aside from the lack of rewards ---
**Author:** ![RonMexico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ronmexico/32/104146_2.png) [@RonMexico](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RonMexico)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/74 "2024-03-22T15:10:16Z")
It’s yet another Catch-22. So if you limit the colors (while theoretically retaining the 1x only troop usage for bonus points), you’re going to have win rates into the stratosphere and bracket positions (again assuming the bracket model remains) is going to come down to RNG of starting boards for the quickest wins as there’s going to be a TON of 30/0 weeks. Complaints ensue that we’re not as in control of the final scores and the cream isn’t necessarily rising to the top. Better to be lucky than good. If you leave in the option of off-color defenses (a la the GW of old), you’re back to the lack of diversity in defense builds. The meta updates itself to reflect new troops like Takshaka/Stellarix et al and you see those pop up in the “easier” GW days on defense. Complaints ensue that the meta is stale and if you don’t have (insert troop here), it becomes impossible, boring, repetitive, etc etc. The combination of not ever being able to satisfy everyone with the added (additional) focus on increasing monetization leaves things between a rock and a hard place. Personally, I think the “best” GW option hasn’t been envisioned yet and I have no idea what it would look like. Now add in the time it takes to make a new engaging mode and the traditional GW base sees more and more attrition. It’s its own catch-22 within a catch-22. Essentially, it’s just a matter of wait and see for some. Or don’t wait and migrate to another game for others. ---
**Author:** ![32pitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/a698b9/32.png) [@32pitch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/32pitch)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/75 "2024-03-22T15:38:00Z")
Great cancel it and enjoy FarmVille. This entire thread is absurd. This is a tool for the devs to keep conversation going on a decision that’s been made months ago. It’s not coming back so factor in top 5 brackets and how many people leave oh but let’s keep doing this nonsense so people have hope. 1st day in 5 years I had zero interest in even opening the app. Game is dead. ---
**Author:** ![JHM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@JHM](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JHM)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/76 "2024-03-22T15:41:33Z")
I think it’s fine to join the feedback discussion with “I hated it and here’s why…” or something similar, because that’s useful feedback that the devs can use. Saying “I hated it and don’t want it back” is a lot less useful, because all it says it that that person won’t like the mode no matter how they change it, more or less. The devs need two sets of feedback really, what was liked by those who loved the mode and kept them playing it, and what was hated by those who disliked the mode and stopped them from wanting to play it. From that, they can decide what was well liked and needs to be kept and what was well disliked and needs to change, and that’s great. Unless those two things happen to be the same, which means they need to keep them the same so they please those who already liked the mode, IMO. Of course, the other feedback is good too, and helps to improve the mode, but those two things are crucial if they want to keep the players already engaged and bring in those who weren’t, with whatever changes they make. ---
**Author:** ![JamesDurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/77 "2024-03-22T16:12:09Z")
Love: One thing that I haven’t seen yet: Having different defense troops give additional points made it so that you weren’t seeing the EXACT same defense over and over. If anything, please increase this bonus. It’s easy free points to not cheese defense. New features: Considering the current meta build has multi-colored troops, you can basically use the same team every day, taking the fun out of it. It was better when you had to construct a different team each day. I don’t know if there’s an easy way to build in a feature to restrict this. How often: Monthly was good. Enough time for Paragon to brag for a month, and then for other rabble to plot to take them down. ---
**Author:** ![Sylwani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sylwani](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sylwani)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/78 "2024-03-22T17:23:35Z")
The problem was you still had a way to get tomes in every team. Simple fix there is find a way to disallow their favorite mana generators. ---
**Author:** ![3476582](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3476582](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/3476582)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/79 "2024-03-22T17:26:11Z")
> [@32pitch](#): > > It’s not coming back Did you read a single work of the OP? > [@Nimhain](#): > > Fear not, Guild Wars is not being canceled or removed > [@32pitch](#): > > factor in top 5 brackets and how many people leave There really wouldn’t be many people at all. Really how many people would be grinding a game they don’t enjoy every day just so that once a month they will have 6 days that they can do 5 PvP battles? > [@32pitch](#): > > 1st day in 5 years I had zero interest in even opening the app. Game is dead. The game isn’t dead and even if GW was removed it still wouldn’t even be close to dead. More people would have quit playing after the recent PvP changes than will leave if GW is removed. ---
**Author:** ![3476582](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3476582](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/3476582)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/80 "2024-03-22T17:32:42Z")
> [@Nimhain](#): > > What did you love about Guild Wars? Nothing. > [@Nimhain](#): > > What new features would you like to see? Removal of empowered converters. GW is mostly just luck when you are fighting empowered converters, when the enemy has aligment in 5 different places for their empowered converter and there is nothing you can do to stop it then there is no skill involved. > [@Nimhain](#): > > How often would you like Guild Wars to run? Once a month at the very most. Inbetween campaigns would be perfect. Every 6 months as a special event would also be good. ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620/81 "2024-03-22T21:54:01Z")
I would really like to see the final results of our guild and the guilds we competed against in GW available to us for review at some point the following week. I liked the way the old guild wars worked. Our guild has been working its way up the brackets (very slooooowly) and that has been fun and challenging. We interact with each other the most during GW week. Definitely no additional battles - what was offered in the old system was more than enough. I would also be open to changes because I am sure there could be some cool new things that we are not thinking about. I agree strongly that there should not be the ability to pay to win. I also agree that the rewards are not commensurate with the time involved but really, it is more about challenging ourselves than the rewards. And ofc bragging rights 🙂 We won’t have the same sense of satisfaction if we think our opponents won because they bought a ridiculous number of buffs. The playing field needs to be level for this one. I’m pretty confident that most people in our guikd would say that playing GW has made them a better player overall. Some people get stressed about it, some don’t - that seems to be an indiviual personality thing as much as anything. We try to stress that we just want everyone to play each day, learn and have fun. Some people are still pretty freaked out about potentially disappointing the guild. Managing how to play in a way that everyone in the guild feels good about is tough. I do think that having a more clear and complete official “user’s guide to GW” would be helpful - picking up tips and tricks from guild members, this community, discord and streamers is such a hodge podge. It’s hard to feel confident that you have covered all the bases and there can be conflicting information that is hard to parse. So, either that, or a much more transparent, easier scoring system. Hope this is helpful feedback. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-going-forward/83620.md?page=5)