# Guild Wars - FAQ **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Created:** [April 24, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038 "2017-04-24T23:13:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/21 "2017-04-25T10:59:57Z")
Makes sense. Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/22 "2017-04-25T11:06:09Z")
There is a rumour in global chat that you will not get the colour bonus if you do not play the matches on the specified day. I don’t think this is the case but can anyone clarify ? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/23 "2017-04-25T11:06:20Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Q. Are defend teams locked in after the first day, or can they be changed at any time? > A. No reason to believe they would be locked in. BUT we don’t have a firm answer on this from the devs yet I can confirm that defense teams are not locked in as i have already changed mine for day 1 ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 11:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/24 "2017-04-25T11:07:04Z")
I wonder why such a button exists in the first place tbh. Afaik skipping a guild is still worse than rushing the 5 fights with really terrible results. Why would anyone ever want to skip a guild? ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 11:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/25 "2017-04-25T11:10:44Z")
Unfortunately I don’t think we have enough info to answer that yet, however I would agree with you that it’s likely not the case. From the wording the Devs have used each day is a “War” and you must use your allotted battles for their specific War before you can proceed to the next one. So it is is possible that the colour bonuses are based on the number of battles (eg first 5 battles are War 1’s colour, next 5 are War 2’s etc) and it consumes your battles if you skip a guild to avoid abusing this. This is however all speculation based on the following quotes from Sirrian. EDIT: In short using the wording from the second quote here, the colour bonus is tied to the War, not the day of the week. > [@3.0 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-0-patch-notes/21925/1): > > Each day has a color theme for the attackers to try out. On the first day (blue day), you will get bonus points in any guild war battle for each blue troop in your team. Want to maximize your points? Then you’ll need to figure out an entirely blue team to do so… but even 1 or 2 blue troops will still give you a (smaller) bonus. > Each day gives a player 5 battles. Players can chose whether to spend the battles each day or to wait until later in the Guild War before they start spending their battles. It doesn’t matter to the final score, but if you want to try and win the daily reward, you will need to fight on that day. > [@3.0 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-0-patch-notes/21925/1): > > (remember… using the correct color in the correct WAR will give you some bonus score) > [@Gouki](#): > > Why would anyone ever want to skip a guild? Maybe if you’re REALLY pressed for time, and want to help your guild win the current day’s war or something? ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/26 "2017-04-25T15:07:59Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > remember… using the correct color in the correct WAR will give you some bonus score) Does anyone know what it is without USING the current color? Is winning without using the current color going to be more points than loosing using current color. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/27 "2017-04-25T15:12:30Z")
Are you really not sure is winning in any way more worth then lossing? ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/28 "2017-04-25T16:10:33Z")
Thanks for starting this thread @Ozball! This one will be seeing a lot of traffic, I presume. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/29 "2017-04-25T16:54:33Z")
Do we know how the colour bonus works in terms of troop survival? Meaning, do I get the colour bonus for how many troops of a colour I take into battle or how many troops of that colour survive the battle? Eg. if I take 4 troops into battle, they somehow all die but I win the battle with 4 troops alive, do I get the max bonus? Does the colour of the troops alive at the end matter? ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/30 "2017-04-25T16:56:34Z")
I think most people are of the opinion that color bonuses are calculated before the match but troop bonuses after. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/31 "2017-04-25T16:59:26Z")
You have the answer with how point calculation works up top, you just need to read. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/32 "2017-04-25T17:31:50Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > You have the answer with how point calculation works up top, you just need to read. Oh my, it would appear I can’t read, because I don’t see anything in here that specifies if the colour of the surviving troops matters for the colour bonus. Thanks for trying to help though! 🙂 > [@htismaqe](#): > > I think most people are of the opinion that color bonuses are calculated before the match but troop bonuses after. Thanks, that’s my guess too. I’m tempted to test it, but don’t want to lose out on points for the guild. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/33 "2017-04-25T17:39:15Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Q. What is the forumla for the score at the end of the battle for a win? > A. (Base score + (number of troops of the day’s colour \* color bonus)) + (surviving troops \* 10%) > Example: I’m fighting a Soldier, with a full team of Yellow troops. My guild’s yellow bonus is 50%. I lose one troop in the fight, but still win. > > (50 + (4 \* 50% of base)) + (3 \* 10%) > = (50 + (200% of base)) + 30% > = (50 + 100) + 30% > = 150 + 30% > = 150 + 45 > = 195 There you go. Only thing that matters is number of troops alive on the end not which colors they use. You can see all the factors that contribute to final score: - number of troops with featured color you start with - number of troops alive in the moment you win - base point reward for win And im not a kind of guy who would say you can’t read, just that all information you could gather about point gain is already there on top of tge topic. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/34 "2017-04-25T18:02:36Z")
Omg, you mean I have to read MATH!? 😅 Thanks, I get it now. It’s not spelled out, but you wouldn’t get the full colour bonus if it didn’t come from the starting troops, right? So: (Base score + (number of troops of the day’s colour **at start of match** \* color bonus)) + (surviving troops **of any colour** \* 10%). That answers my question, thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/35 "2017-04-25T18:03:46Z")
You are correct about that. ---
**Author:** ![EricBLivingston](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ericblivingston/32/9345_2.png) [@EricBLivingston](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EricBLivingston)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/36 "2017-04-26T00:07:32Z")
This doesn’t seem like the right formula… I created a little spreadsheet, replicating that as far as I can tell (unless I just made a mistake), and the total it’s showing for 4 “perfect” games (all the right color, all surviving) is 6,360… but I scored over 7,000 and several in my guild were up around 8,000. It seems like it’s something else. Our statue bonus is 71%, so where did I go wrong? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/9/a918c71f6db06f092aab327ff1602be8189398c3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/37 "2017-04-26T00:10:39Z")
The survival bonus is applied to the score AFTER the troop colour bonus is added. So for your first fight you’d have 192 \* 1.4 for 4 surviving troops which should give you 268.8. One way to think of it is, the base and colour bonuses are calculated when the battle stars, and then the survival bonus is applied on top of that after the battle ends based on how you did. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/38 "2017-04-26T00:11:37Z")
It happens in our guild that the bonus goes up during the day so some members does more points than others. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/39 "2017-04-26T00:13:25Z")
Oz explained the error in your calculations. ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038/40 "2017-04-26T01:44:56Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Are you really not sure is winning in any way more worth then lossing Well if you don’t get any points because you don’t use the color it would have been. Found out the answer. I don’t get as much points for winning, but I was able to beat the double bone dragon and move on. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-faq/23038.md?page=3)