# Guild Wars and sisters guilds

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-and-sisters-guilds/23674
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**Created:** [May 7, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-and-sisters-guilds/23674 "2017-05-07T09:16:11Z")
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### Author: ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-wars-and-sisters-guilds/23674/439 "2018-04-29T19:26:00Z")

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Sorry I haven’t had the time to read the forum these last weeks and I am catching up very late.

> [@Ashasekayi](#):
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> Also, what guilds did the devs bust for actual collusion not botting? Two guilds were called out in the past for collusion. However, that was brought out in a messy public thread. They weren’t busted by the devs.

These two guilds had asked and received permission from the devs before the very first week of GoW. Back then the devs were neutral on that topic. They decided to consider it as cheating after that call out under the pressure of the forum.

> [@Ashasekayi](#):
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> There are a great deal of assumptions being made in this statement. From past drama over this issue, the devs haven’t given me a single reason to believe that they routinely look at GW scores to ensure fair play.
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> Frankly, the integrity of scores in GW seems very low on the dev priority list to me. They don’t even care enough about GW to make sure inactive guilds aren’t preventing active guilds from making reasonable progress up the brackets. _shrug_

As it has been mentioned in the last posts some guilds have been reported by half the bracket 1 and some evidences that there were still offers of colluding have been shared with the devs.  
The answer has been this:

> [@Why not cheat? (A public letter to the devs)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-not-cheat-a-public-letter-to-the-devs/35078/46):
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> Hey everyone, it was some time ago, so I’m going to reiterate some points. After examining the all the data, it’s not clear if small amounts of collusion we suspect are taking place are having a significant effect on the final GW results and scores. We have also de-incentivised cheating by implementing changes to the Guild Wars defense scoring. We believe that a guild, or a player, is innocent until proven guilty. we don’t want to encourage witch hunts or have players attacked and/or guilds at…

So I agree that it doesn’t seem to be very high in their priorities.  
Maybe also they don’t know how to deal with it?

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