# Guild Guardians - if i ascend first 6, did they stop droppning? Or i need all 12? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [January 22, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-guardians-if-i-ascend-first-6-did-they-stop-droppning-or-i-need-all-12/60887 "2020-01-22T07:44:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Raukatau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Raukatau](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raukatau)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-guardians-if-i-ascend-first-6-did-they-stop-droppning-or-i-need-all-12/60887/1 "2020-01-22T07:44:37Z")
I played before new guardians was released, so i have more copies of first 6 guardians. If i ascend them (all 6 to mythx4 copies), only new guardians will drop? And vice versa, if i use orbs on new guardians and have them mythx4 each, only old guardians will drop? Or i need all 12 guardians to be maxed out? (which is unfair, if for example i was 50 copies away from max, and new guardians was released, i end up with ~150x6 old guardians copies that i did not need at all). So do i need all 12 guardians to be mythx4? Or first 6 and new 6 guardians are considered independently? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-guardians-if-i-ascend-first-6-did-they-stop-droppning-or-i-need-all-12/60887/2 "2020-01-22T08:08:48Z")
The system has changed (for the better)! > [@4.7 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-7-update-patch-notes/59896/1): > > With the release of the new Guild Guardians we have made some changes to how Guild Guardians appear in Guild Chests. Players now only need to have a Guardian at Mythic rarity with 4 copies of it, and then that Guardian will no longer appear in Guild Chests. So each Guardian that you ascend to Mythic with 4 copies will stop dropping from Guild Chests. I hope that makes sense. Let us know if that’s not clear! ---
**Author:** ![Raukatau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Raukatau](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raukatau)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-guardians-if-i-ascend-first-6-did-they-stop-droppning-or-i-need-all-12/60887/3 "2020-01-22T08:46:01Z")
So i can ascend them (to mythx4) one by one? Thats Great! Thank you for answer. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-guardians-if-i-ascend-first-6-did-they-stop-droppning-or-i-need-all-12/60887/4 "2020-01-22T08:57:43Z")
That’s correct – yeah it is 🙂 Np.