# Guild "agreement" in bracket1 to arrange scores

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740>\
**Category:** Archive\
**Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740 "2017-09-25T07:00:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/574 "2017-09-28T04:47:04Z")

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> [@turintuor](#):
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> He was talking about getting data from IP2 server

Yes thank you. Blessed as i am with the power to understand simple sentences i am well aware of what he was talking about.

Thank you tho for attempting to help me with understanding things. The next time my wife says some stuff i dont understand you will be who i call upon for assistance.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/575 "2017-09-28T04:48:24Z")

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> [@turintuor](#):
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> topic here is making in-game polls

No topic here is guilds colluding to affect GW scores

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/576 "2017-09-28T04:49:16Z")

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You’re welcome 😉 .

> [@Vangor](#):
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> No topic here is guilds colluding to affect GW scores

Yeah that’s why I advice @Ivar to make a new thread about “in-game polls”.

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/577 "2017-09-28T04:51:51Z")

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RE: Finding Data  
I assume they are using the unofficial, unsupported API that Sam found a long time ago.

Sirrian’s final statement on it is in the last post.

> [@GoW Official API!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gow-official-api/18365):
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> EDIT (Sirrian): I’ve removed the body of this message, as tinkering with the API is not something we want to promote on our forums, since it’s the first step on the path to bots & hacks, and quite likely that you’ll get banned (permanently), unless you’re quite savvy about how APIs work. [image] VERY IMPORTANT: WARNING.\* TLDR: Don’t use the API - it’s a VERY bad idea. You’ll likely get banned if you experiment. As Nimhain mentioned to Samboy… we HIGHLY RECOMMEND not attemnpting to use the …

TLDR: It isn’t hacking. But, you should probably avoid using it.

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**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/578 "2017-09-28T04:53:05Z")

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Before today it was not considered cheating by the developers. Going forward we are going to put up harder defenses.

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/579 "2017-09-28T04:53:22Z")

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Right. So we’re advising you to make a new thread on Server data. I’m trying to understand the miscommunication here. Can you help me out?

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/580 "2017-09-28T04:55:46Z")

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> [@Sththunder](#):
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> Right. So we’re advising you to make a new thread on Server data

Exactly

10char

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/581 "2017-09-28T05:16:24Z")

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Oooookay. I get it. @Ashasekayi’s answer is enough for me.

You can continue freely you’re bashing 😉 .

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/582 "2017-09-28T05:19:56Z")

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> [@turintuor](#):
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> You can continue freely you’re bashing 😉 .

No bashing, just trying to keep thread integrity, I’m sure you understand.

😉

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/583 "2017-09-28T05:23:28Z")

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> [@ZooKeeper](#):
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> You mean something like this?  
> ![asdasdasd](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/3/33b690f4cf22d46539464c594fc0da718c6d82a7.jpg)

Do you have the week before or after the one you are showing, and will you please post? Thank you kindly

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**Author:** ![madking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/madking/32/62439_2.png) [@madking](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/madking)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/584 "2017-09-28T05:43:35Z")

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I think that all parts involved have said their reasons and explanations.

I have only one question: if some guilds knew that alliances were allowed for GW before the start of GW, and the devs clearly not denied them, why don’t make this info public so every guild could chose to using alliances or not?

Even if I guess that some of the replies will be “if you have an info that gives you an advantage, will you make it public?”

In my opinion that is not a strategic info, but about GW rules

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/585 "2017-09-28T05:46:21Z")

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Using alliances. Yikes. We all know it was a way to gain more points and unfairly move up in the ranks past Guilds that were playing as the game was intended to be played.

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/586 "2017-09-28T05:49:36Z")

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My guild is not listed in Bracket One for week 17 because the cheating Guilds, ones that we had easily beaten, moved up past ours in an unfair manner by colluding to obtain more points than they earned. Enough said.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/587 "2017-09-28T05:50:02Z")

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This thread and most of the replies are an answer… no?  
Why making a thread to be insulted?

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/588 "2017-09-28T05:51:54Z")

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You do not deserve to be in Bracket One because you do not play better than 10 other Guilds. You cheated. That is all.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/589 "2017-09-28T05:52:06Z")

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> [@Blondie](#):
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> My guild is not listed in Bracket One for week 17 because the cheating Guilds, ones that we had easily beaten, moved up past ours in an unfair manner by colluding to obtain more points than they earned. Enough said.

So bad that you didn’t easily beat the 5 others guilds 😉 .

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/590 "2017-09-28T05:53:39Z")

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We are a rank 33 guild that has been in Bracket One most of the entire Guild Wars. We are proud we did it without cheating.

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**Author:** ![Blondie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/blondie/32/31819_2.png) [@Blondie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Blondie)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/591 "2017-09-28T05:54:56Z")

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You will never have my respect. I will never care if I have yours.

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**Author:** ![Rellystra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rellystra/32/26238_2.png) [@Rellystra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rellystra)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/592 "2017-09-28T06:11:27Z")

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@turintuor you didn’t answer my question. The devs have said officially that, going forward, collusion will be viewed as cheating. Does your guild intend to stop?

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/593 "2017-09-28T06:15:41Z")

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@Saltypatra this thread is achieving nothing useful now… suggest time it goes…

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