# Guild "agreement" in bracket1 to arrange scores

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740>\
**Category:** Archive\
**Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740 "2017-09-25T07:00:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Saluki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saluki/32/10639_2.png) [@Saluki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saluki)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/554 "2017-09-28T04:00:10Z")

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I, personally can not. It was at one time explained to me but it all went past my head in talks of api and json files. Not my area of expertise I will admit.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/555 "2017-09-28T04:00:21Z")

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Your ignorance betrays you. It’s not hacking if the information is readily available to anyone. But then, you’re not just anyone, are you?

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**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/556 "2017-09-28T04:01:56Z")

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So how is it available please explain?

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**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/557 "2017-09-28T04:05:17Z")

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@Saltypatra is this info readily available to everyone? If so it needs to be disclosed to everyone how to access it.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/558 "2017-09-28T04:12:01Z")

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I’ve already explained. Sorry if it passed you by.

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/559 "2017-09-28T04:15:11Z")

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Oh boy! The thread isn’t locked down while I’m available to speak!

Firstly, we feared this way back in May and asked and asked for an official denouncement from the devs, we did not receive any. We should not be surprised that one of the proponents of “devs didn’t say no” is now leading the charge here.

Secondly, anyone saying “we needed a break”…give me a break. None of these guilds gave us a break on any of the other days they set up defenses. You want to know what _I_ did when I wanted a break from Guild Wars and the monotony of the defense teams? I left my beloved guild that I put my heart and soul into (Hoguns) in order to save my sanity. Never in my mind was this something viable. I made sure Ogunther’s vision of an honorable guild would continue and I can say in my heart of hearts, not a single member in our guild (hey, also more than 60 members since the start of GW, imagine that!) considered such an option. I decided that the best way to take a break from terrible awful defense teams was to remove myself from the guild I loved.

The blame does absolutely fall on the dev’s shoulders. All we wanted was a denouncement from this kind of behavior. We did not receive it. They underestimated the human behavior of competitive people. Somehow. I’ll never understand a simple no being unreasonable.

But anyone who says that putting up ridiculously easy defenses is in the name of WAR is a liar. You know what happens in real Wars? Since we’re doing this analogy? Your ally doesn’t face you in the freaking battlefield. This is so massively different. You don’t put up a charade of a fake war with your ally in real war. You take both of your troops and face the real enemy. Totally different guys.  
_edit_ hey it’s my cake day!

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/560 "2017-09-28T04:16:25Z")

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Sending request to a private server is for me not something that one should claim on the official forum of the server owner. But it’s only my point of view 😉 .  
And I just asked the point of views of devs about that.

> [@RiverSong](#):
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> Anyone with a computer and a little bit of knowledge can access this information. I’ve been in several guilds where it was a daily, if not hourly, occurance.

You can do a poll about that, but I really doubt about what you are saying. If you think it’s that okay why do you not let us know how you do it?

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/561 "2017-09-28T04:17:52Z")

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You should start a new thread about that 😉 .

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/562 "2017-09-28T04:18:20Z")

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I never said that I do it, did I?

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**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/563 "2017-09-28T04:20:57Z")

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No you have only said it was readily available not how it was readily available. It’s not in the everyday guild war screen or menu in the game so where is it coming from?

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/564 "2017-09-28T04:27:56Z")

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> [@turintuor](#):
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> . If you think it’s that okay why do you not let us know how you do it?

Are you telling her it’s against the spirit of the game? …strange.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/565 "2017-09-28T04:28:19Z")

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> [@Taliesin](#):
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> so where is it coming from

She told you

> [@RiverSong](#):
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> Anyone with a computer and a little bit of knowledge can access this information

It comes from computer knowledge

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/566 "2017-09-28T04:33:45Z")

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But is there someone who can do it (ie obtaining data from the server) that want to share his point of view?

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**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/567 "2017-09-28T04:34:56Z")

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That is not an explanation of how exactly it is done. We will see what @Saltypatra has to say on the subject. If it is readily available then it needs to be explained exactly how to access it.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/568 "2017-09-28T04:37:15Z")

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> [@Taliesin](#):
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> We will see what @Saltypatra has to say on the subject

Fair enough… We already know what she had to say about colluding dont we tho? She called it cheating

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/569 "2017-09-28T04:37:31Z")

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Knowledge of specific guild alliances weren’t publicly available. Let’s keep on the subject of the OT.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/570 "2017-09-28T04:41:06Z")

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He was talking about getting data from IP2 server…

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**Author:** ![Rellystra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rellystra/32/26238_2.png) [@Rellystra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rellystra)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/571 "2017-09-28T04:42:22Z")

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To those of you who were previously in these alliances:

Now that the devs have stated that collusions will, going forward, count as cheating, does this mean you will discontinue the practice?

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**Author:** ![Sththunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Sththunder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sththunder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/572 "2017-09-28T04:42:48Z")

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> [@turintuor](#):
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> You should start a new thread about that 😉 .

It’s been a while, but I remember the topic of this thread being a different topic from yours.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guild-agreement-in-bracket1-to-arrange-scores/30740/573 "2017-09-28T04:47:00Z")

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> [@Sththunder](#):
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> It’s been a while, but I remember the topic of this thread being a different topic from yours.

I’m not sure if we are talking about the same thing but the topic here is making in-game polls.

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