# Green Eyed Monster **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [April 4, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353 "2021-04-04T22:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@Tibo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tibo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/22 "2021-04-11T15:44:38Z")
Battles are randomly chosen, if you are lucky you can make more points with less battles. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/23 "2021-04-11T15:55:56Z")
It used to be the case that battles were offered in the same order to all players; the order was randomly chosen at the start of the week. If that has changed, it is a big deal for competitive reasons—and I would hope for an announcement of same. ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/24 "2021-04-11T16:56:35Z")
Ultra deception: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/d/bd6a198c8776759122f1dc26e697cb0e184324f2.jpeg) There are an additional four players – for a total of seven players – in my guild that entirely skipped every Maid of Envy, undoubtedly because it had a lower rarity. Here’s how the game tries to tell players to always kill Maid of Envy: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/f/7ff33a4a437a5c240f2a01301aa0a36afe71bbd7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/25 "2021-04-11T17:10:10Z")
What @Grundulum says. A few events back bunch of us recorded sequences of our fights and concluded that everybody got the same enemies. Keeping that in mind, I find totally perplexing what I see on the leaderboard. I’m sure that my score is maximum possible I could get (unless I’ve turned colorblind and forgotten how to read) - people getting more points than should be possible with that difference in games won, people getting more points in fewer battles…so _either there is something more (that we don’t know) in the scoring system_ _or there are pack of obvious cheaters,_ _or something is wrong with leaderboard data,_ _or sometimes everybody gets the same battles but other days not._ In any case, it doesn’t look too good. ---
**Author:** ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/26 "2021-04-11T18:20:21Z")
> [@Tibo](#): > > Battles are randomly chosen, if you are lucky you can make more points with less battles. As @Dust_Angel said, we found a couple weeks back that everyone gets the same fights regardless of what you pick on the map. > [@Dust\_Angel](#): > > _either there is something more (that we don’t know) in the scoring system_ > _or there are pack of obvious cheaters,_ > _or something is wrong with leaderboard data,_ > _or sometimes everybody gets the same battles but other days not._ > > In any case, it doesn’t look too good. Will add another option: The game may not be giving out points correctly. Just to rule it out… ~~Did you ever die, and thus waste a good point fight?~~ (EDIT: Apparently if you die you can repeat the same fight, so that doesnt matter.) If this is just a one off thing, for now Id say maybe you accidentally clicked the wrong one ~~or died and forgot~~. Maybe. We all know the game has bugs too though… Would be willing to do another test run next week if you and others want to check. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/27 "2021-04-11T18:41:10Z")
Nope, no death. Maybe I missed optimal route? Not impossible, yet I highly doubt it. Most likely it all should stem from something iffy within the game itself…but what? For me, at least, points are being given correctly - I have spreadsheet with my own count and, whenever I look, the number of games/points are the same in both my spreadsheet and leaderbord; no discrepancy at all since the very first campaign. Anyhow, this week is the first time I’m on a global leaderboard so I can actually look and quite directly compare my results with those of other people; since the rewards are flat (no ~1,18 of base or increasing with each battle) it should be rather straightforward…maybe this weird stuff has existed forever, but we just haven’t noticed, dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/28 "2021-04-11T19:34:53Z")
Could the visual glitch that causes people to take suboptimal choices be to blame? ---
**Author:** ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/29 "2021-04-11T20:09:50Z")
@Dust_Angel, good (or bad?) news, you’re not crazy! Both @blindnighto and I completed 90 fights each but have different points. ![Screenshot_20210411-160059__01](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/6/c681a4aba7a66f8f13aa2459ac89f403324f3e70.jpeg) Looks like I got one extra Maid of Envy, and he got an extra Queen of Sin. Both of our maps are different too. I have four purple fights to choose from, and he has three purples and one Maid of Envoy. How do either of our scores line up with you when you completed 90 battles? Maybe fights are random and different per person now? The difference is tiny though. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/30 "2021-04-11T20:35:21Z")
Unfortunately by pointing out how “Not random” the battles are/were on a thread. The devs will probably strive to make sure the battles are random moving forward. One of the downsides of discussing the game where Salty can see every discussion if she chooses to. 🤷 (It could just depend on the event as well. If there’s no variable scoring. Then the battles are random. If there’s variable scoring, then the battles are linear.) ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/31 "2021-04-11T21:31:30Z")
Hmmm… I play on two accounts and keep track, more or less detailed. This week, up to 40 battles, same battles on both. I picked the same battles throughout, Maid if available, otherwise highest rarity, lowest level. At battle #45, I picked Pride on one account, Broker of Greed on another. They were both same level if I recall correctly. And the first difference showed at battle #47 - battle #46 was Lust for both, but for #47, the first account got Maid of Envy, while the second got Wrath. From then on, some differences: | # | Account 2 | Account 1 | | --- | --- | --- | | 45 | Broker of Greed | Pride | | 46 | Lust | Lust | | 47 | Wrath | Maid of Envy | | 48 | Wrath | Maid of Envy | | 49 | Queen of Sin | Maid of Envy | | 50 | Pride | Broker of Greed | | 51 | Broker of Greed | Broker of Greed | | 52 | Pride | Pride | | 53 | Pride | Broker of Greed | | 54 | Lust | Lust | | 55 | Wrath | Wrath | | 56 | Broker of Greed | Pride | | 57 | Maid of Envy | Maid of Envy | | 58 | Maid of Envy | Maid of Envy | | 59 | Broker of Greed | Pride | | 60 | Maid of Envy | Maid of Envy | | 61 | Lust | Lust | | 62 | Lust | Lust | | 63 | Maid of Envy | Maid of Envy | | 64 | Pride | Broker of Greed | | 65 | Queen of Sin | Queen of Sin | | 66 | Broker of Greed | Broker of Greed | | 67 | Maid of Envy | Maid of Envy | | 68 | Maid of Envy | | | 69 | Maid of Envy | | | 70 | Maid of Envy | | There’s a few repeating patterns there. Maybe the upcoming battles depend on the position you pick? 🤔 Or they started shuffling blocks of them? My 40 battles were played earlier in the week, the change could have happened later in the week. If anyone’s up for starting data collection next week, count me in. ---
**Author:** ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/32 "2021-04-11T21:52:35Z")
Thanks @mitamata ! Our last test showed location picked doesn’t matter. That said, after so many battles I said it was good enough, that we could conclude the battles are always the same. Apparently we should have kept going since at least in this event, there was a change for you at 40 battles. It is strange. That’s quite a few battles before there’s a difference. Why give everyone the same first 39 fights? 🤔 As long as next week isn’t a variable point event, I’ll join the data collection. I will also ask @Saltypatra in stream. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/33 "2021-04-11T23:40:06Z")
> [@Snooj](#): > > It is strange. That’s quite a few battles before there’s a difference. Why give everyone the same first 39 fights? The difference started at 47. I think what happened is, I was following the same algorithm through to battle 40 and picking the same battles consistently. This was a few days ago. Today, I saw this thread and made a conscious decision to vary it up a bit and took a Pride battle when I should have taken Broker of Greed according to my algorithm. That’s when the variation started. Now, either there’s something else is determining the next battle or something changed mid week. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353/34 "2021-04-12T02:19:50Z")
Unfortunately, this time around I didn’t keep that detailed of a record as, you know, - same battles for everyone - and exactly when the world returns to random appearance. The issue looks clearer now thanks to @mitamata. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/green-eyed-monster/69353.md?page=1)